How do you score/define an 'Up & Down'

Jason Patterson Professional Champion
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The handicap tracker software allows for you to track 'Up & Downs.' How do you quantify this stat? For example, Sand Saves are an easy calculation--if you are in a greenside bunker, get out of the trap in 1 and then 1 putt, you have a Sand Save. Can you help me understand Up & Down in these similar terms? Is it anytime I use a wedge outside of regulation and still card a par? Does par matter? If I am greenside after 4 strokes on a par 4 and then chip on and sink the put for a double 6, is that a successful up & down? How do you guys calculate it when tracking your stats? Thanks in advance, I'll hang up and listen.
cogolfer1 LowIndex
# 16 3/9/2013 12:38:15 PM
If you don't hit the green in regulation, and get the ball holed in par or birdie, then it's an up/down. Up/down for bogey doesn't count. BTW, sandies work for both greenside and fairway bunkers as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for the post. I noticed you are from Denver, I just moved to Highlands Ranch from Florida. What courses do you recommend around here to play on a regular basis? I would love to play courses I can get on for under $30 with a cart, do you have any insight on some of the best values in the area? Oh right on! First, let me say, welcome! Being just outside of Highlands Ranch, there's not much around here that's $30 or less with a cart. I'd recommend you get a South Suburban district card, because then South Suburban and Lone Tree (my 2 home courses BTW and my personal favorites) and then you can play there on weekdays for $32 and $46 respectively, and $36 and $60 on weekends (excluding cart). I haven't played there yet, hopefully this summer, but Highlands Ranch Golf Links is $42 on weekdays and $52 on weekends, and I've heard it's a really good course. The Links is an executive course, but it looks like as a Highlands Ranch resident you get on there for $26 or $32. Again it's just not the cheapest area to play golf. If you're willing to drive up to Denver and play a course that I don't think is as good as the ones I listed, you could play somewhere like Wellshire, Willis Case, Overland, City Park for what you're looking for. (DO NOT PLAY KENNEDY!) Head just a bit west to Arrowhead though. You're looking at over $100 to play there, but man is it worth it. Thanks man, we love it out here. Those are some great suggestions. I will look into the players card This morning I found Plum Creek in Castle Pines (about 20 minutes away) at $30 with cart on GolfNow Hot Deals. That is a weekday tee time. Have you ever played there? I checked out their website, they don't list their green fees, but it's a Pete Dye design and looks pretty nice for $30 all-in. We played Arrowhead in 2008 when we were out here for a wedding, it's still one of the best courses we have ever played. We will play there there when we have people in town, but unfortunately I'm not enough of a baller to make it my home course. I can't wait to get back out there. I'm surprised that course doesn't get more national recognition. Thanks again for the suggestions and insight. I've never played Plum Creek for a reason, and that's because I've heard some terrible reviews about the course when paired up with people. They say it's so cheap for a Dye design because it was once private, lost ownership, and the course has gone to hell since then. I heard the greens are just terrible and the sand in the bunkers is like playing off the cart path it's so hard. Rumor has it it could shut down this year. When I hear better reviews I'll give her a go.
Jason Patterson Professional Champion
# 17 3/16/2013 5:03:16 PM
If you don't hit the green in regulation, and get the ball holed in par or birdie, then it's an up/down. Up/down for bogey doesn't count. BTW, sandies work for both greenside and fairway bunkers as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for the post. I noticed you are from Denver, I just moved to Highlands Ranch from Florida. What courses do you recommend around here to play on a regular basis? I would love to play courses I can get on for under $30 with a cart, do you have any insight on some of the best values in the area? Oh right on! First, let me say, welcome! Being just outside of Highlands Ranch, there's not much around here that's $30 or less with a cart. I'd recommend you get a South Suburban district card, because then South Suburban and Lone Tree (my 2 home courses BTW and my personal favorites) and then you can play there on weekdays for $32 and $46 respectively, and $36 and $60 on weekends (excluding cart). I haven't played there yet, hopefully this summer, but Highlands Ranch Golf Links is $42 on weekdays and $52 on weekends, and I've heard it's a really good course. The Links is an executive course, but it looks like as a Highlands Ranch resident you get on there for $26 or $32. Again it's just not the cheapest area to play golf. If you're willing to drive up to Denver and play a course that I don't think is as good as the ones I listed, you could play somewhere like Wellshire, Willis Case, Overland, City Park for what you're looking for. (DO NOT PLAY KENNEDY!) Head just a bit west to Arrowhead though. You're looking at over $100 to play there, but man is it worth it. Thanks man, we love it out here. Those are some great suggestions. I will look into the players card This morning I found Plum Creek in Castle Pines (about 20 minutes away) at $30 with cart on GolfNow Hot Deals. That is a weekday tee time. Have you ever played there? I checked out their website, they don't list their green fees, but it's a Pete Dye design and looks pretty nice for $30 all-in. We played Arrowhead in 2008 when we were out here for a wedding, it's still one of the best courses we have ever played. We will play there there when we have people in town, but unfortunately I'm not enough of a baller to make it my home course. I can't wait to get back out there. I'm surprised that course doesn't get more national recognition. Thanks again for the suggestions and insight. I've never played Plum Creek for a reason, and that's because I've heard some terrible reviews about the course when paired up with people. They say it's so cheap for a Dye design because it was once private, lost ownership, and the course has gone to hell since then. I heard the greens are just terrible and the sand in the bunkers is like playing off the cart path it's so hard. Rumor has it it could shut down this year. When I hear better reviews I'll give her a go. Thanks for the tip. I read a few decent reviews but I just went back and looked and they were from 2009. I have pretty low standards for a golf course if I can get on for a low price, but I don't want a lousy experience/score if it's poorly maintained where it counts.

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The handicap tracker software allows for you to track 'Up & Downs.' How do you quantify this stat? For example, Sand Saves are an easy calculation--if you are in a greenside bunker, get out of the trap in 1 and then 1 putt, you have a Sand Save. Can you help me understand Up & Down in these similar terms?

Is it anytime I use a wedge outside of regulation and still card a par? Does par matter? If I am greenside after 4 strokes on a par 4 and then chip on and sink the put for a double 6, is that a successful up & down? How do you guys calculate it when tracking your stats?

Thanks in advance, I'll hang up and listen.

cogolfer1

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# 16 3/9/2013 12:38:15 PM

If you don't hit the green in regulation, and get the ball holed in par or birdie, then it's an up/down. Up/down for bogey doesn't count. BTW, sandies work for both greenside and fairway bunkers as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks for the post. I noticed you are from Denver, I just moved to Highlands Ranch from Florida. What courses do you recommend around here to play on a regular basis? I would love to play courses I can get on for under $30 with a cart, do you have any insight on some of the best values in the area?

Oh right on! First, let me say, welcome! Being just outside of Highlands Ranch, there's not much around here that's $30 or less with a cart. I'd recommend you get a South Suburban district card, because then South Suburban and Lone Tree (my 2 home courses BTW and my personal favorites) and then you can play there on weekdays for $32 and $46 respectively, and $36 and $60 on weekends (excluding cart). I haven't played there yet, hopefully this summer, but Highlands Ranch Golf Links is $42 on weekdays and $52 on weekends, and I've heard it's a really good course. The Links is an executive course, but it looks like as a Highlands Ranch resident you get on there for $26 or $32. Again it's just not the cheapest area to play golf. If you're willing to drive up to Denver and play a course that I don't think is as good as the ones I listed, you could play somewhere like Wellshire, Willis Case, Overland, City Park for what you're looking for. (DO NOT PLAY KENNEDY!) Head just a bit west to Arrowhead though. You're looking at over $100 to play there, but man is it worth it.

Thanks man, we love it out here. Those are some great suggestions. I will look into the players card

This morning I found Plum Creek in Castle Pines (about 20 minutes away) at $30 with cart on GolfNow Hot Deals. That is a weekday tee time. Have you ever played there? I checked out their website, they don't list their green fees, but it's a Pete Dye design and looks pretty nice for $30 all-in.

We played Arrowhead in 2008 when we were out here for a wedding, it's still one of the best courses we have ever played. We will play there there when we have people in town, but unfortunately I'm not enough of a baller to make it my home course. I can't wait to get back out there. I'm surprised that course doesn't get more national recognition.

Thanks again for the suggestions and insight.

I've never played Plum Creek for a reason, and that's because I've heard some terrible reviews about the course when paired up with people. They say it's so cheap for a Dye design because it was once private, lost ownership, and the course has gone to hell since then. I heard the greens are just terrible and the sand in the bunkers is like playing off the cart path it's so hard. Rumor has it it could shut down this year. When I hear better reviews I'll give her a go.

Jason Patterson

Professional Champion

# 17 3/16/2013 5:03:16 PM

If you don't hit the green in regulation, and get the ball holed in par or birdie, then it's an up/down. Up/down for bogey doesn't count. BTW, sandies work for both greenside and fairway bunkers as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks for the post. I noticed you are from Denver, I just moved to Highlands Ranch from Florida. What courses do you recommend around here to play on a regular basis? I would love to play courses I can get on for under $30 with a cart, do you have any insight on some of the best values in the area?

Oh right on! First, let me say, welcome! Being just outside of Highlands Ranch, there's not much around here that's $30 or less with a cart. I'd recommend you get a South Suburban district card, because then South Suburban and Lone Tree (my 2 home courses BTW and my personal favorites) and then you can play there on weekdays for $32 and $46 respectively, and $36 and $60 on weekends (excluding cart). I haven't played there yet, hopefully this summer, but Highlands Ranch Golf Links is $42 on weekdays and $52 on weekends, and I've heard it's a really good course. The Links is an executive course, but it looks like as a Highlands Ranch resident you get on there for $26 or $32. Again it's just not the cheapest area to play golf. If you're willing to drive up to Denver and play a course that I don't think is as good as the ones I listed, you could play somewhere like Wellshire, Willis Case, Overland, City Park for what you're looking for. (DO NOT PLAY KENNEDY!) Head just a bit west to Arrowhead though. You're looking at over $100 to play there, but man is it worth it.

Thanks man, we love it out here. Those are some great suggestions. I will look into the players card

This morning I found Plum Creek in Castle Pines (about 20 minutes away) at $30 with cart on GolfNow Hot Deals. That is a weekday tee time. Have you ever played there? I checked out their website, they don't list their green fees, but it's a Pete Dye design and looks pretty nice for $30 all-in.

We played Arrowhead in 2008 when we were out here for a wedding, it's still one of the best courses we have ever played. We will play there there when we have people in town, but unfortunately I'm not enough of a baller to make it my home course. I can't wait to get back out there. I'm surprised that course doesn't get more national recognition.

Thanks again for the suggestions and insight.

I've never played Plum Creek for a reason, and that's because I've heard some terrible reviews about the course when paired up with people. They say it's so cheap for a Dye design because it was once private, lost ownership, and the course has gone to hell since then. I heard the greens are just terrible and the sand in the bunkers is like playing off the cart path it's so hard. Rumor has it it could shut down this year. When I hear better reviews I'll give her a go.

Thanks for the tip. I read a few decent reviews but I just went back and looked and they were from 2009. I have pretty low standards for a golf course if I can get on for a low price, but I don't want a lousy experience/score if it's poorly maintained where it counts.

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