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Is Stat keeping Hazardous to your Game ?
sberend
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Keeping 'Golf Stats' is something that most of us do here on this website, some, may only be on here to 'Track Handicap' and interact with others in Forums & Blogs. But, a majority of us love to "Stat Watch". So, I pose the question, can tracking all of your 'Golf Stats' actually be detrimental to your game? I personally have been tracking my golf stats for the last 15 years, and love doing so, it has almost become an obsession of mine. When I play well I can't wait to get home and record my score and stats for that round, but on the flip side, when I play bad, I dread it. I've noticed in the off-season (which is when I generally DON'T keep my Stats) I seem to play better, I'm more concerned with scoring and NOT with Fairways Hit, Greens Hit, Putts, etc., etc. Does this sound like any of you? I don't play any different in the off-season, I'm not more consevative or more aggressive, I just play my game. Sometimes I feel that 'My Stats' get into my head during a round, if I only hit 2 of 7 fairways or 2 of 9 greens on the Front 9, I start to put additional pressure on myself in those areas. The logical thing would be to stop keeping 'Stats' all together, but like I said, I'm obsessed with numbers and a glutton for punishment. Just wondering if anyone else feels that Stat keeping could be Hazardous?
HIGH_LANDER
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# 1    3/25/2010 1:04:12 PM   
GREAT POST. i Dont like to keep my stats,but i started playing with this golf group,and i have to count mine & thier score & putts,etc.i dont like it,its one more thing i have to keep up with,it has hurt my game some,trying to putt out just to wrtte score and also busy counting thier swings.lots of works.But now i told myself,just to focus on my game,and let the other 3 players,keep up with thier score.so it has help alot.and i do enjoy playing,more than tracking stats.sberend,also like to add,do you play, HIGH or do you play LOW.Meaning,when your 3+ over,and your on hole 4,do you start to think to yourself,I need to BIRIDIE the next 3 holes.Man,you put alot of pressure on yourself.Also when you play Low, -3 UNDER,,do you start to tell yourself,i have to Birided the next 5 holes to shoot a lower score.thats alot of pressure.Thinking OUTCOME before PROCESS.
Best Regards
Daniel


Mongo68
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# 2    3/25/2010 1:58:49 PM   
Mg GIR percentage was bad all last year. When I started actually paying attention to see where I was missing, it was almost always right or short of the green. Almost never left. I thik it's a good way to get a grip on where your weeknesses are.


Goynes42
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# 3    3/25/2010 2:17:52 PM   
I've always felt that stats got in the way of playing golf, for exactly the reasons you described. Here's the deal: Don't let problems leave the golf course.

What I mean by that is to pay attention to the shots you missed, and immediately after the round, go over to the range and fix them. Believe me, the range right after a round is where you do your best practicing, because all your misses are fresh in your mind--they're much easier to fix that way. Say you weren't hitting many fairways. Go take the driver out there and hit about 10 balls until you find it again. Then you're done! It might only take 5 minutes, but you can leave the golf course in a positive frame of mind, knowing that you sorted the problem out.

If you just hop in the car immediately after a round, though, you take the problems home with you. That's when you start thinking about them. You start reading about quick fixes in golf magazines, and other "tricks" that might help you. Then when you come back to the course, out comes some totally contrived swing, on top of your brain telling you "Hit more fairways than last time, doofus!"

I've even stopped keeping track of putts, because even that can be misleading. I might have a day where I'm striking the ball ALMOST good, and leaving it on the fringe on 5 or 6 holes. Those don't count as putts even if I use a putter, so I might end up looking like I just took 25 putts to complete the round...but in reality it was more like 30, you know?

Anyway, I say go to the range right after the round. Don't let problems leave the golf course to become 'statistics.'


HIGH_LANDER
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# 4    3/25/2010 2:22:06 PM   

I've always felt that stats got in the way of playing golf, for exactly the reasons you described. Here's the deal: Don't let problems leave the golf course.

What I mean by that is to pay attention to the shots you missed, and immediately after the round, go over to the range and fix them. Believe me, the range right after a round is where you do your best practicing, because all your misses are fresh in your mind--they're much easier to fix that way. Say you weren't hitting many fairways. Go take the driver out there and hit about 10 balls until you find it again. Then you're done! It might only take 5 minutes, but you can leave the golf course in a positive frame of mind, knowing that you sorted the problem out.

If you just hop in the car immediately after a round, though, you take the problems home with you. That's when you start thinking about them. You start reading about quick fixes in golf magazines, and other "tricks" that might help you. Then when you come back to the course, out comes some totally contrived swing, on top of your brain telling you "Hit more fairways than last time, doofus!"

I've even stopped keeping track of putts, because even that can be misleading. I might have a day where I'm striking the ball ALMOST good, and leaving it on the fringe on 5 or 6 holes. Those don't count as putts even if I use a putter, so I might end up looking like I just took 25 putts to complete the round...but in reality it was more like 30, you know?

Anyway, I say go to the range right after the round. Don't let problems leave the golf course to become 'statistics.'

Great Advice,thanks


HIGH_LANDER
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# 5    3/25/2010 2:28:13 PM   

Mg GIR percentage was bad all last year. When I started actually paying attention to see where I was missing, it was almost always right or short of the green. Almost never left. I thik it's a good way to get a grip on where your weeknesses are.

so are you hitting more Greens! Now?


Duckhunter
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# 6    3/25/2010 2:40:33 PM   
I think the one stat that will help your game is ? How many times did I miss hit the ball? I not talking just missed it. When you miss hit your ball is most of the time when you find youself in trouble. See how many missed shots made it a bad score.


Mongo68
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# 7    3/25/2010 2:49:19 PM   

I think the one stat that will help your game is ? How many times did I miss hit the ball? I not talking just missed it. When you miss hit your ball is most of the time when you find youself in trouble. See how many missed shots made it a bad score.


Agree with you on that one Duck. I put a little mark on my score card everytime I hit a bad shot: flub, shank, top, etc. and count them up after a round. It's disgusting to think I could shave 5 shots, sometimes even 8 or 10 a round if I didn't do it so often. Wouldn't the scorecard just sparkle if they could be eliminated!


HIGH_LANDER
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# 8    3/25/2010 2:53:43 PM   

I think the one stat that will help your game is ? How many times did I miss hit the ball? I not talking just missed it. When you miss hit your ball is most of the time when you find youself in trouble. See how many missed shots made it a bad score.

Duck,missed shots,like O.B. WATER,LOST BALL,that would fall under Penalty,right.
are you saying missed shots,like topping the ball,shanking the ball,etc,thanks


Duckhunter
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# 9    3/25/2010 3:05:40 PM   


I think the one stat that will help your game is ? How many times did I miss hit the ball? I not talking just missed it. When you miss hit your ball is most of the time when you find youself in trouble. See how many missed shots made it a bad score.

Duck,missed shots,like O.B. WATER,LOST BALL,that would fall under Penalty,right.
are you saying missed shots,like topping the ball,shanking the ball,etc,thanks


You tell me. Why did your ball go out ? off the toe dead right and into the water or OB or duck hook it in. Yea that counts. That is not how you wanted to hit it. If you hit a good shot but the ball hits cart path,rock, sprinkler head in or near the fair way then goes OB, water, ect that was not poor hit ball that was poor luck. I don't count poor luck or even good luck. It's how well did the club hit the ball. You know when you hit a good shot when it hits your club not where the ball goes.


cogolfer1
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# 10    3/25/2010 5:10:50 PM   
I like knowing my stats because to me it's a good indication what I need to work on even though I may not think I need to work on it. A couple days ago I thought my bunker play was pretty good, but when I saw my stats for sandies were 0.00%, it's a good indication to me bunker play is something that needs work.


72Wannabe
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# 11    3/25/2010 5:12:43 PM   
For me focusing on my stats DURING the round sort of helps me NOT be focused on my score. Thinking about fairways and greens and two putting helps me think only about the next shot. when I'm done at the turn I add up my stats and score which helps me "refocus" on the back nine on those shots I haven't hit well on the front.

I record my stats when I get home but I don't dwell on them or get too wrapped up in them. They are what they are and I know which ones I need to work on.


bcg33
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# 12    3/25/2010 6:03:10 PM   
I keep all my stats but started to NOT to add up my score (+-) untill im done..That seems to help


T LAVAN SHOEMAKER
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# 13    3/25/2010 7:33:15 PM   
If you've followed any of my work and spreadsheet offerings, you know how much I'm into stats. The two points that I have pondered regarding the process "getting in the way" is the actual gathering of data during the round, and the hightened sensitivity to a round going south.

The data gathering, to me, has become second nature, however, I have often thought that if all I had to do was play the game I might play the game better. I think I sometimes rob my ability to emerse myself into the game with too many technical thought, including data gathering. I've learned to let it go and play the game more. I can usually remember every shot for days after a round anyway.

The other aspect of statistical jeopardy is really no different from trying to lower your handicap. Of all the details I keep track of, my handicap index and average score will sneak in and try to sabotage a round after a bad shot or two. My goal for this year is to end up with an average score of 89 or better and a 15 handicap. If I yank one out of bounds, that's not too bad. But when I top a fairway wood or grossly fat ass an iron approach, that just kills me. I have learned that the most important thing for me to do after a bad shot is to run mental damage control. Forget the swing thoughts, I need my emotions in check. I'll give up some distance an the next few shots to get a solid shot off the club face.

It would be nice to come up with a GPS integrated device that would track everything with minimal commands. The more art I put into my game, and the less technical thoughts, the better I seem to play.


T LAVAN SHOEMAKER
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# 14    3/25/2010 7:37:32 PM   

I keep all my stats but started to NOT to add up my score (+-) untill im done..That seems to help


Yes sir! I do the same thing. In fact, I will wait until I get home and start playing with my spreadsheet to see what i actually scored. Trying to gain shots on the back 9 over the front 9 has never been a good thing for me.


howasam
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# 15    3/26/2010 1:29:23 AM   
Well to tell you the truth, I've never really thought of it like that. But I can see your point and I do believe it adds pressure. It will really add pressure now that I will be thinking of it like that! Thanks alot sberend!!!!! LOL.


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