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Been working on this shot lately and not having much luck. Been all over the Internet looking at different techniques and trying them out. Rear ball position, middle ball position, break the wrists or not, pinch the ball, etc. It feels like I'm producing a lot of spin, but when it hits the green, it always releases, most of the time it doesn't even slow. I use prov1s, my wedge grooves have been sharpened... I'm out of ideas.
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# 1 4/16/2016 7:28:21 PM |
More speed (and thus more spin)?
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# 2 4/16/2016 7:40:16 PM |
Did you buy those balls from a second hand dealer on the internet??
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# 3 4/16/2016 7:50:10 PM |
Did you buy those balls from a second hand dealer on the internet?? Ummm... Yeah... Hey Don, the balls aren't spinning. Might be my speed, getting older, but I'm hitting it as hard as I can and controlling distance by length of backswing. My wedges are a few years old, but I got a sharpener, don't know if that might be the problem. Oh yeah, and I clean the grooves after every hit. |
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# 4 4/16/2016 8:20:55 PM |
I can perform the shot on bentgrass greens but not on bermuda and I spin the ball a lot.
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# 5 4/16/2016 8:43:22 PM |
I can perform the shot on bentgrass greens but not on bermuda and I spin the ball a lot. So it matters what kind of grass? Damn, all the greens I play are bermuda. |
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# 6 4/17/2016 7:05:41 AM |
Did you buy those balls from a second hand dealer on the internet?? Thanks for your help Vince...putz! |
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# 7 4/17/2016 7:12:53 AM |
What kind of ball are you playing and what type of shot are you referring to? Full shots with mid iron to wedges? Chipping?
You'll almost never get a ball to check up if it doesn't have a urethane cover which are the premium balls (Pro V1, B330, TaylorMade Tour Preferred, etc). There's a few mid priced balls that are urethane too but you won't get quite the performance that you do with premium balls. Even if you are using premium balls, if you aren't generating the swing speed then you aren't generating enough backspin and the ball is going to release rather than back up. Hard greens will also reduce the backspin on the ball. |
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# 8 4/17/2016 7:54:12 AM |
Did you buy those balls from a second hand dealer on the internet?? Thanks for your help Vince...putz! I was referring to your competition. Stop being so sensitive. |
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# 9 4/17/2016 8:11:36 AM |
Did you buy those balls from a second hand dealer on the internet?? Thanks for your help Vince...putz! I was referring to your competition. Stop being so sensitive. Nobody likes a troublemaker. Is it any wonder the only guy that likes you is Jay, the other troublemaker? The only difference between the two of you is he doesn't work :) |
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# 10 4/17/2016 8:14:29 AM |
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# 11 4/17/2016 1:01:57 PM |
What kind of ball are you playing and what type of shot are you referring to? Full shots with mid iron to wedges? Chipping? You'll almost never get a ball to check up if it doesn't have a urethane cover which are the premium balls (Pro V1, B330, TaylorMade Tour Preferred, etc). There's a few mid priced balls that are urethane too but you won't get quite the performance that you do with premium balls. Even if you are using premium balls, if you aren't generating the swing speed then you aren't generating enough backspin and the ball is going to release rather than back up. Hard greens will also reduce the backspin on the ball. The low to mid trajectory 30-50 yd pitch that bounces once and hits the brakes... at this point I'd be happy if it leaked a yd or 2. I've been practicing with my 2012 prov1s. They're my "emergency" balls in case I lose a sleeve of my 2014 prov1s. They're still in great shape. The practice green is soft, we've had a good deal of rain this spring. It slopes from back to front so I'm hitting into an uphill situation from a tight lie. At this point, I'm thinking even with a sharpener my grooves are just too dull. |
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# 12 4/17/2016 2:43:05 PM |
What kind of ball are you playing and what type of shot are you referring to? Full shots with mid iron to wedges? Chipping? You'll almost never get a ball to check up if it doesn't have a urethane cover which are the premium balls (Pro V1, B330, TaylorMade Tour Preferred, etc). There's a few mid priced balls that are urethane too but you won't get quite the performance that you do with premium balls. Even if you are using premium balls, if you aren't generating the swing speed then you aren't generating enough backspin and the ball is going to release rather than back up. Hard greens will also reduce the backspin on the ball. The low to mid trajectory 30-50 yd pitch that bounces once and hits the brakes... at this point I'd be happy if it leaked a yd or 2. I've been practicing with my 2012 prov1s. They're my "emergency" balls in case I lose a sleeve of my 2014 prov1s. They're still in great shape. The practice green is soft, we've had a good deal of rain this spring. It slopes from back to front so I'm hitting into an uphill situation from a tight lie. At this point, I'm thinking even with a sharpener my grooves are just too dull. That 30-50 yard chip shot is pretty tough to get to stop simply because the clubhead speed isn't enough to give that kind of backspin. I'm sure it's checking up somewhat, it's just harder to see it from behind the ball. Try setting up a video from the side and you should see a little bit of check up. Rather, try hitting low running chips. For instance, on a level green I use a PW to chip 1/3 of the way in the air and 2/3 run-out. SW 1/2 air 1/2 run. 8 iron 1/3 air 2/3 run. If you have an uphill or downhill shot then adjust accordingly. Here's a good article on it http://golf.about.com/od/golft.. So short of opening the clubface on a wedge and slicing under the ball (which is a higher error factor) I'd try the above. Let us know how it works out. |
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# 13 4/17/2016 2:50:49 PM |
What kind of ball are you playing and what type of shot are you referring to? Full shots with mid iron to wedges? Chipping? You'll almost never get a ball to check up if it doesn't have a urethane cover which are the premium balls (Pro V1, B330, TaylorMade Tour Preferred, etc). There's a few mid priced balls that are urethane too but you won't get quite the performance that you do with premium balls. Even if you are using premium balls, if you aren't generating the swing speed then you aren't generating enough backspin and the ball is going to release rather than back up. Hard greens will also reduce the backspin on the ball. The low to mid trajectory 30-50 yd pitch that bounces once and hits the brakes... at this point I'd be happy if it leaked a yd or 2. I've been practicing with my 2012 prov1s. They're my "emergency" balls in case I lose a sleeve of my 2014 prov1s. They're still in great shape. The practice green is soft, we've had a good deal of rain this spring. It slopes from back to front so I'm hitting into an uphill situation from a tight lie. At this point, I'm thinking even with a sharpener my grooves are just too dull. That 30-50 yard chip shot is pretty tough to get to stop simply because the clubhead speed isn't enough to give that kind of backspin. I'm sure it's checking up somewhat, it's just harder to see it from behind the ball. Try setting up a video from the side and you should see a little bit of check up. Rather, try hitting low running chips. For instance, on a level green I use a PW to chip 1/3 of the way in the air and 2/3 run-out. SW 1/2 air 1/2 run. 8 iron 1/3 air 2/3 run. If you have an uphill or downhill shot then adjust accordingly. Here's a good article on it http://golf.about.com/od/golft.. So short of opening the clubface on a wedge and slicing under the ball (which is a higher error factor) I'd try the above. Let us know how it works out. Hey Don, on #18 I, saw you hit " was it 7-iron? shot from behind some trees, land on the green, and hit the high side of the green and roll just past the hole, leaving you with a 6 foot putt, which you nicely drain in. |
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# 14 4/17/2016 4:50:04 PM |
What kind of ball are you playing and what type of shot are you referring to? Full shots with mid iron to wedges? Chipping? You'll almost never get a ball to check up if it doesn't have a urethane cover which are the premium balls (Pro V1, B330, TaylorMade Tour Preferred, etc). There's a few mid priced balls that are urethane too but you won't get quite the performance that you do with premium balls. Even if you are using premium balls, if you aren't generating the swing speed then you aren't generating enough backspin and the ball is going to release rather than back up. Hard greens will also reduce the backspin on the ball. The low to mid trajectory 30-50 yd pitch that bounces once and hits the brakes... at this point I'd be happy if it leaked a yd or 2. I've been practicing with my 2012 prov1s. They're my "emergency" balls in case I lose a sleeve of my 2014 prov1s. They're still in great shape. The practice green is soft, we've had a good deal of rain this spring. It slopes from back to front so I'm hitting into an uphill situation from a tight lie. At this point, I'm thinking even with a sharpener my grooves are just too dull. That 30-50 yard chip shot is pretty tough to get to stop simply because the clubhead speed isn't enough to give that kind of backspin. I'm sure it's checking up somewhat, it's just harder to see it from behind the ball. Try setting up a video from the side and you should see a little bit of check up. Rather, try hitting low running chips. For instance, on a level green I use a PW to chip 1/3 of the way in the air and 2/3 run-out. SW 1/2 air 1/2 run. 8 iron 1/3 air 2/3 run. If you have an uphill or downhill shot then adjust accordingly. Here's a good article on it http://golf.about.com/od/golft.. So short of opening the clubface on a wedge and slicing under the ball (which is a higher error factor) I'd try the above. Let us know how it works out. Didn't think to get video on it... Good idea. Yeah... Been doing the chips with different clubs and having good success with it. Depends on what the shot calls for. It's just this year I find I have more time to practice my short game and also find on the par 5s at my home course that my 3rd shot is ending up on the tight mown grass always about 30-50yds from front and middle pins which is a lot better than where I've been in years past and having that shot in my bag would give me better birdie chances. |
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# 15 4/17/2016 6:33:53 PM |
Assuming you are using your most lofted club, try this: Slightly open the face. Maybe from square at the 12 o'clock position to about half way to 1 o'clock. Just slightly open. and change your attack angle from inside out, to outside in. Outside to in is steeper and will produce more spin.
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