Winter blues and playing hookey.

DoubleBogeyDave Professional Champion
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Went to work yesterday and decided to duck out after a few hours. Found myself with about 5 hours to fill before I went back home. I decided since I was in town anyway I'd hit golf galaxy and window shop. Since the season ended, all I've done this winter is go to work, quit smoking (again), start a diet, and work out. It's been too cold to go in the garage and take practice swings, and I can feel the rust accumulating. Anyway, luckily, GG was dead as a doornail leaving the hitting booth wide open. I asked the guy if I could test drive some of the new drivers out this year and he obliged. I think he was bored and happy to have the company. For thw next 1/2 hour I tried everything and loved the 915d2 9.5 the best. The next 1/2 hour I did nothing but hit that 915 smiling as I put out drive after drive between 260-275 (guess all those sit ups, push ups, squats, and pull ups are paying off.). He told me to bring in my 913 to compare it side by side with the 915. Needless to say, I had a ball. My question to you who have been fitted before is (and I kick myself for not asking him because he was so chatty) is: I was hitting a Blueboard stiff 62g, A1 setting, and averaging 100-107, 3200 rpm backspin, 10-16 degrees of launch, avg. 10 yards offline left or right...Is the backspin too high, would a different shaft or setting lower it (if so, which shaft or setting)? Where should my launch be? I have a mid tempo swing and I'm obviously trying to avoid paying $40 for a real driver fitting, so feel free to chime in.
armygrunt47 Professional Champion
# 1 1/24/2015 2:15:40 PM
Yeah for your SS and launch angle the spin rate is about 500 rpms too high. Might want to give the Whiteboard a try and see if that lowers your spin. If not then you can may need to lower your loft a bit.
Mark Simmons Legend
# 2 1/24/2015 3:07:27 PM
Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots? ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account.
cogolfer1 LowIndex
# 3 1/24/2015 3:25:26 PM
Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am?
DoubleBogeyDave Professional Champion
# 4 1/24/2015 3:26:21 PM
Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots? ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account. Yes, the 3200 was an average of all shots taken during that 1/2 hour. Low was 2900 and the high was 3700 with a range between 258 and 277 yards (at most 7 yards rollout). Definitely some variability there,but those are the ranges and averages.
DoubleBogeyDave Professional Champion
# 5 1/24/2015 3:27:15 PM
Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am? Didn't know until now. But yeah.
Vincedaddy Legend
# 6 1/24/2015 3:50:40 PM
I don't have the blues and I never play hookey, but I have left work on many occasions to attend a very important meeting with a client or supplier.
Mark Simmons Legend
# 7 1/24/2015 5:41:25 PM
Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots? ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account. Yes, the 3200 was an average of all shots taken during that 1/2 hour. Low was 2900 and the high was 3700 with a range between 258 and 277 yards (at most 7 yards rollout). Definitely some variability there,but those are the ranges and averages. That helps Dave. ArmyGrunt's comment that it is too high still stands. But the adjustment may not be simple. Since your launch angle is quite variable and as low as 10 degrees, if you lower the loft much you could find yourself hitting some low flying scuds. I know you were hoping to avoid paying for a fitting, but it's looking to me like that may be what you need.
DoubleBogeyDave Professional Champion
# 8 1/24/2015 6:22:03 PM
Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots? ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account. Yes, the 3200 was an average of all shots taken during that 1/2 hour. Low was 2900 and the high was 3700 with a range between 258 and 277 yards (at most 7 yards rollout). Definitely some variability there,but those are the ranges and averages. That helps Dave. ArmyGrunt's comment that it is too high still stands. But the adjustment may not be simple. Since your launch angle is quite variable and as low as 10 degrees, if you lower the loft much you could find yourself hitting some low flying scuds. I know you were hoping to avoid paying for a fitting, but it's looking to me like that may be what you need. I just included the 10 because it was one my starting shots. What little practice I've afforded myself this winter, I've been making it a priority to keep my head occupying the same space in both the backswing and downswing, and using my overly long arms (my wingspan is 3 inches longer than my overall height of 6'2") to produce a wider arc on the backswing. That 10 came from my head going forward on the downswing, but I wanted to include it just in case. Once I remembered what I'm practicing, my launch angle was between 13-16 stedily.
JayPet Legend
# 9 1/25/2015 3:31:41 PM
Dave, if you wish to play hooky just listen to Vince!! The Grand Poobah of afternoon "meetings". Even I can learn from Vince and I'm a slacker.
Vincedaddy Legend
# 10 1/25/2015 3:37:56 PM
Dave, if you wish to play hooky just listen to Vince!! The Grand Poobah of afternoon "meetings". Even I can learn from Vince and I'm a slacker. And if you encounter trouble from the wife call her at the turn and ask her to get ready so you can take her out to dinner later that evening.
JayPet Legend
# 11 1/25/2015 5:10:31 PM
Dave, if you wish to play hooky just listen to Vince!! The Grand Poobah of afternoon "meetings". Even I can learn from Vince and I'm a slacker. And if you encounter trouble from the wife call her at the turn and ask her to get ready so you can take her out to dinner later that evening. Vince knows all the angles... That's why he is a Legend. If she gives him the cold shoulder, there's always an alternative.
armygrunt47 Professional Champion
# 12 1/25/2015 7:01:31 PM
Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots? ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account. Yes, the 3200 was an average of all shots taken during that 1/2 hour. Low was 2900 and the high was 3700 with a range between 258 and 277 yards (at most 7 yards rollout). Definitely some variability there,but those are the ranges and averages. If you can keep those launch angles and get your spin rates down between 2500-2900 then you should be getting close to your potential with your SS. What was your angle of attack? That is one other thing that you need to consider.
JayPet Legend
# 13 1/25/2015 8:32:28 PM
Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am? They bored the hell out of us with all those #'s and missed the hockey part. I like when they fight! Especially when the Goalies go at it.
cogolfer1 LowIndex
# 14 1/25/2015 8:41:54 PM
Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am? They bored the hell out of us with all those #'s and missed the hockey part. I like when they fight! Especially when the Goalies go at it. Good thing it's the Avs and Red Wings then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJlCdI.. BTW, it just now hit me it says hookey, not hockey. I love hockey so much I just read it with the "c" and not the "o."
JayPet Legend
# 15 1/25/2015 9:16:34 PM
Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am? They bored the hell out of us with all those #'s and missed the hockey part. I like when they fight! Especially when the Goalies go at it. Good thing it's the Avs and Red Wings then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJlCdI.. BTW, it just now hit me it says hookey, not hockey. I love hockey so much I just read it with the "c" and not the "o." I saw it said hookey a long time ago when I made my first comment about Vince but they got too frigin geeky about the #'s and launch angles and I felt compelled to go in another direction. Good thing they can't tell what we are trying to do.

DoubleBogeyDave

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Went to work yesterday and decided to duck out after a few hours. Found myself with about 5 hours to fill before I went back home. I decided since I was in town anyway I'd hit golf galaxy and window shop. Since the season ended, all I've done this winter is go to work, quit smoking (again), start a diet, and work out. It's been too cold to go in the garage and take practice swings, and I can feel the rust accumulating. Anyway, luckily, GG was dead as a doornail leaving the hitting booth wide open. I asked the guy if I could test drive some of the new drivers out this year and he obliged. I think he was bored and happy to have the company.

For thw next 1/2 hour I tried everything and loved the 915d2 9.5 the best. The next 1/2 hour I did nothing but hit that 915 smiling as I put out drive after drive between 260-275 (guess all those sit ups, push ups, squats, and pull ups are paying off.). He told me to bring in my 913 to compare it side by side with the 915. Needless to say, I had a ball.

My question to you who have been fitted before is (and I kick myself for not asking him because he was so chatty) is: I was hitting a Blueboard stiff 62g, A1 setting, and averaging 100-107, 3200 rpm backspin, 10-16 degrees of launch, avg. 10 yards offline left or right...Is the backspin too high, would a different shaft or setting lower it (if so, which shaft or setting)? Where should my launch be? I have a mid tempo swing and I'm obviously trying to avoid paying $40 for a real driver fitting, so feel free to chime in.

armygrunt47

Professional Champion

# 1 1/24/2015 2:15:40 PM

Yeah for your SS and launch angle the spin rate is about 500 rpms too high. Might want to give the Whiteboard a try and see if that lowers your spin. If not then you can may need to lower your loft a bit.

Mark Simmons

Legend

# 2 1/24/2015 3:07:27 PM

Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots?

ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account.

cogolfer1

LowIndex

# 3 1/24/2015 3:25:26 PM

Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am?

DoubleBogeyDave

Professional Champion

# 4 1/24/2015 3:26:21 PM

Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots?

ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account.

Yes, the 3200 was an average of all shots taken during that 1/2 hour. Low was 2900 and the high was 3700 with a range between 258 and 277 yards (at most 7 yards rollout). Definitely some variability there,but those are the ranges and averages.

DoubleBogeyDave

Professional Champion

# 5 1/24/2015 3:27:15 PM

Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am?

Didn't know until now. But yeah.

Vincedaddy

Legend

# 6 1/24/2015 3:50:40 PM

I don't have the blues and I never play hookey, but I have left work on many occasions to attend a very important meeting with a client or supplier.

Mark Simmons

Legend

# 7 1/24/2015 5:41:25 PM

Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots?

ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account.

Yes, the 3200 was an average of all shots taken during that 1/2 hour. Low was 2900 and the high was 3700 with a range between 258 and 277 yards (at most 7 yards rollout). Definitely some variability there,but those are the ranges and averages.

That helps Dave. ArmyGrunt's comment that it is too high still stands. But the adjustment may not be simple. Since your launch angle is quite variable and as low as 10 degrees, if you lower the loft much you could find yourself hitting some low flying scuds. I know you were hoping to avoid paying for a fitting, but it's looking to me like that may be what you need.

DoubleBogeyDave

Professional Champion

# 8 1/24/2015 6:22:03 PM

Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots?

ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account.

Yes, the 3200 was an average of all shots taken during that 1/2 hour. Low was 2900 and the high was 3700 with a range between 258 and 277 yards (at most 7 yards rollout). Definitely some variability there,but those are the ranges and averages.

That helps Dave. ArmyGrunt's comment that it is too high still stands. But the adjustment may not be simple. Since your launch angle is quite variable and as low as 10 degrees, if you lower the loft much you could find yourself hitting some low flying scuds. I know you were hoping to avoid paying for a fitting, but it's looking to me like that may be what you need.

I just included the 10 because it was one my starting shots. What little practice I've afforded myself this winter, I've been making it a priority to keep my head occupying the same space in both the backswing and downswing, and using my overly long arms (my wingspan is 3 inches longer than my overall height of 6'2") to produce a wider arc on the backswing. That 10 came from my head going forward on the downswing, but I wanted to include it just in case. Once I remembered what I'm practicing, my launch angle was between 13-16 stedily.

JayPet

Legend

# 9 1/25/2015 3:31:41 PM

Dave, if you wish to play hooky just listen to Vince!! The Grand Poobah of afternoon "meetings". Even I can learn from Vince and I'm a slacker.

Vincedaddy

Legend

# 10 1/25/2015 3:37:56 PM

Dave, if you wish to play hooky just listen to Vince!! The Grand Poobah of afternoon "meetings". Even I can learn from Vince and I'm a slacker.

And if you encounter trouble from the wife call her at the turn and ask her to get ready so you can take her out to dinner later that evening.

JayPet

Legend

# 11 1/25/2015 5:10:31 PM

Dave, if you wish to play hooky just listen to Vince!! The Grand Poobah of afternoon "meetings". Even I can learn from Vince and I'm a slacker.

And if you encounter trouble from the wife call her at the turn and ask her to get ready so you can take her out to dinner later that evening.

Vince knows all the angles... That's why he is a Legend. If she gives him the cold shoulder, there's always an alternative.

armygrunt47

Professional Champion

# 12 1/25/2015 7:01:31 PM

Dave, if your launch angle varied between 10-16 degrees, so did your backspin. So was 3,200 RPM an average, a single reading, or what? Do you have a range? Better yet, can you tell us the range for the majority of your shots?

ArmyGrunt is right 3,200 is too high, but I want to make sure we're advising off the right numbers. You've obviously got some variability in your swing we need to take into account.

Yes, the 3200 was an average of all shots taken during that 1/2 hour. Low was 2900 and the high was 3700 with a range between 258 and 277 yards (at most 7 yards rollout). Definitely some variability there,but those are the ranges and averages.

If you can keep those launch angles and get your spin rates down between 2500-2900 then you should be getting close to your potential with your SS. What was your angle of attack? That is one other thing that you need to consider.

JayPet

Legend

# 13 1/25/2015 8:32:28 PM

Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am?

They bored the hell out of us with all those #'s and missed the hockey part. I like when they fight! Especially when the Goalies go at it.

cogolfer1

LowIndex

# 14 1/25/2015 8:41:54 PM

Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am?

They bored the hell out of us with all those #'s and missed the hockey part. I like when they fight! Especially when the Goalies go at it.

Good thing it's the Avs and Red Wings then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJlCdI..

BTW, it just now hit me it says hookey, not hockey. I love hockey so much I just read it with the "c" and not the "o."

JayPet

Legend

# 15 1/25/2015 9:16:34 PM

Since you brought up hockey, excited for the Avs' outdoor game next year as much as I am?

They bored the hell out of us with all those #'s and missed the hockey part. I like when they fight! Especially when the Goalies go at it.

Good thing it's the Avs and Red Wings then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJlCdI..

BTW, it just now hit me it says hookey, not hockey. I love hockey so much I just read it with the "c" and not the "o."

I saw it said hookey a long time ago when I made my first comment about Vince but they got too frigin geeky about the #'s and launch angles and I felt compelled to go in another direction. Good thing they can't tell what we are trying to do.

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