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PISC
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All the tours in the USA combined into one tour. "THE GOLF TOUR"
Each tournament has three sets of tee boxes for mens, ladies and seniors.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm what do you think?
cogolfer1
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# 1    6/3/2011 7:12:04 AM   
Wouldn't like it and I doubt it'll happen. Just watch the Wendy's 3 Tour Challenge this fall/winter and see why it's doomed to fail.


OtterMan08
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# 2    6/3/2011 7:14:08 AM   
Add two more, Amateur's and Junior's. Let everybody play. Flighted pro events, not bad!


BUCKNUT
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# 3    6/3/2011 7:17:51 AM   
Can we have a "Hackers" flight I would like to give it a try.


MikeNomgi
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# 4    6/3/2011 7:19:23 AM   
About as exciting as the NBA, WNBA, and NCAA combined into one league. They could have three different 3-point lines, free throw lines, and rim heights. And nobody would watch.

It's ok once a year, like the Wendy's, but not week in and week out.


Mongo68
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# 5    6/3/2011 7:48:42 AM   

Can we have a "Hackers" flight I would like to give it a try.


We already have that. It's called "playing on the weekend"


BUCKNUT
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# 6    6/3/2011 8:19:08 AM   


Can we have a "Hackers" flight I would like to give it a try.


We already have that. It's called "playing on the weekend"


I hear ya, lol. Speaking of..............TGIF! I get to hack away tomorrow!!!!!


heartotexas
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# 7    6/3/2011 9:52:02 AM   
Well, I'm gonna go against the grain here and say I like the idea. I've actually mentioned or suggested it in the past. They would have to increase the field dramatically, since there are a lot of really good players in all three categories.
I think the issue here would be that the PGA Tour players would be all offended if a woman or senior started beating their pants off. Their ego's won't let their little boys club get invaded like that.

The "Wendy's 3 Tour Challenge" is hardly a comparison by any stretch with what is being suggested here since it more like a scramble than a stroke play event.

I want to see "head to head" competition, from appropriate distances, on the same course, same conditions.


MikeNomgi
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# 8    6/3/2011 10:39:20 AM   

Well, I'm gonna go against the grain here and say I like the idea. I've actually mentioned or suggested it in the past. They would have to increase the field dramatically, since there are a lot of really good players in all three categories.
I think the issue here would be that the PGA Tour players would be all offended if a woman or senior started beating their pants off. Their ego's won't let their little boys club get invaded like that.

The "Wendy's 3 Tour Challenge" is hardly a comparison by any stretch with what is being suggested here since it more like a scramble than a stroke play event.

I want to see "head to head" competition, from appropriate distances, on the same course, same conditions.


The Wendy's Challenge is nothing like a scramble. It is a stroke play event, with the cumulative scores determining the winner. There has been one recent change; each team throws out the highest score of each hole. Each team has had their share of wins over the years. And the PGA players have not refused to come back the following year because their ego's were hurt.

Check out the scoring averages of the three tours. Keep in mind the PGA Tour course setups are more difficult than the Champions Tour and LPGA setups. As much as I enjoy women's golf, they would not be competitive with the PGA Tour week in and week out.


OtterMan08
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# 9    6/3/2011 12:02:03 PM   
As long as we are on the "What If" track, I've often wondered what would happen if the tour had just one public venue during the season. Not a dog track, but a half decent daily fee public course. Something the rest of us play on every week. Same conditions and setup, no fancy grooming, obviously from the tips.


MikeNomgi
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# 10    6/3/2011 12:13:30 PM   

As long as we are on the "What If" track, I've often wondered what would happen if the tour had just one public venue during the season. Not a dog track, but a half decent daily fee public course. Something the rest of us play on every week. Same conditions and setup, no fancy grooming, obviously from the tips.


The PGA Tour has many daily fee courses at which it plays tournaments.

Cog Hill. Pebble Beach. TPC Sawgrass. Kapalua. Doral. The Greenbriar. La Quinta. Torrey Pines. TPC Scottsdale. PGA National. Innisbrook. Harbour Town. TPC Louisiana, and probably more.

That's a pretty good selection to choose from.


cogolfer1
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# 11    6/3/2011 12:18:21 PM   


As long as we are on the "What If" track, I've often wondered what would happen if the tour had just one public venue during the season. Not a dog track, but a half decent daily fee public course. Something the rest of us play on every week. Same conditions and setup, no fancy grooming, obviously from the tips.


The PGA Tour has many daily fee courses at which it plays tournaments.

Cog Hill. Pebble Beach. TPC Sawgrass. Kapalua. Doral. The Greenbriar. La Quinta. Torrey Pines. TPC Scottsdale. PGA National. Innisbrook. Harbour Town. TPC Louisiana, and probably more.

That's a pretty good selection to choose from.


To add, Bethpage when it's hosted the US Open, almost every British Open course is public (St. Andrews, Carnoustie to name a couple), TPC San Antonio, TPC Southwind, TPC River Highlands and I think every TPC course is public. But I could be wrong. But I'm probably not.


armygrunt47
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# 12    6/3/2011 12:32:24 PM   
One real big problem would be that the field from each level would be cut into a third of what it would normally be. Most of the guys on the tour fight from week to week just to be able to play anyways. This would just complicate things even more. They push to get every one through already and if the fields were larger, they would really be hurting to make up time from weather delays and stuff like that. I could see it only being done once or twice a year and they would prolly have to limit the field to invite only. And how the do the cut would be even more of a problem.


OtterMan08
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# 13    6/3/2011 2:02:38 PM   


The PGA Tour has many daily fee courses at which it plays tournaments.

Cog Hill. Pebble Beach. TPC Sawgrass. Kapalua. Doral. The Greenbriar. La Quinta. Torrey Pines. TPC Scottsdale. PGA National. Innisbrook. Harbour Town. TPC Louisiana, and probably more.

That's a pretty good selection to choose from.


I don't think the TPC's or Kapalua are quite what I had in mind. Cog Hill, The Greenbriar, Turning Stone, come closer. I'm aware the tour plays on courses that are nominally "public". I was thinking more along the lines of a course perhaps without the prestige or the price tag of those you've mentioned. Of course, quite a few of the Nationwide events are held on this kind of course as well as many of the Open qualifiers. It wouldn't be an every week thing, but maybe let a few qualified courses bid for one slot a year. Or maybe let the public have a vote or nominate a local course.


MikeNomgi
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# 14    6/3/2011 2:04:18 PM   



As long as we are on the "What If" track, I've often wondered what would happen if the tour had just one public venue during the season. Not a dog track, but a half decent daily fee public course. Something the rest of us play on every week. Same conditions and setup, no fancy grooming, obviously from the tips.


The PGA Tour has many daily fee courses at which it plays tournaments.

Cog Hill. Pebble Beach. TPC Sawgrass. Kapalua. Doral. The Greenbriar. La Quinta. Torrey Pines. TPC Scottsdale. PGA National. Innisbrook. Harbour Town. TPC Louisiana, and probably more.

That's a pretty good selection to choose from.


To add, Bethpage when it's hosted the US Open, almost every British Open course is public (St. Andrews, Carnoustie to name a couple), TPC San Antonio, TPC Southwind, TPC River Highlands and I think every TPC course is public. But I could be wrong. But I'm probably not.


I don't think the USGA will be back at Bethpage for a long, long time, if ever.

TPC River Highlands is private, not public. In fact, the majority of TPC courses are private.


MikeNomgi
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# 15    6/3/2011 2:10:06 PM   



The PGA Tour has many daily fee courses at which it plays tournaments.

Cog Hill. Pebble Beach. TPC Sawgrass. Kapalua. Doral. The Greenbriar. La Quinta. Torrey Pines. TPC Scottsdale. PGA National. Innisbrook. Harbour Town. TPC Louisiana, and probably more.

That's a pretty good selection to choose from.


I don't think the TPC's or Kapalua are quite what I had in mind. Cog Hill, The Greenbriar, Turning Stone, come closer. I'm aware the tour plays on courses that are nominally "public". I was thinking more along the lines of a course perhaps without the prestige or the price tag of those you've mentioned. Of course, quite a few of the Nationwide events are held on this kind of course as well as many of the Open qualifiers. It wouldn't be an every week thing, but maybe let a few qualified courses bid for one slot a year. Or maybe let the public have a vote or nominate a local course.


The Turning Stone Resort tournament has been dropped. Too bad. It's a good course (The Atunyote). I've been meaning to get out there for a few days since it's only about 5 hours away. It's pricey though. I think it's $250 to play the Atunyote and $175 to $200 for the other three. And I almost always travel with my wife so it's cost times 2 per round.


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