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LindseyM Legend
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This may be a hot topic to discuss but has been irritating me since Saturday. Mulligans....bought at a tournament for the advantage of improving your score. I don't buy them but many other players did. I played in a tournament this weekend for charity. It was for a local church and scholarships. When I checked in the lady asked if I wanted to buy mulligans I quickly said no and walked away. I then looked at rules sheet and noticed that each team member could buy 4 mulligans which equaled 16 mulligans a team. This blew my mind. My team and I had a decent round of -5, 67 and a net 64 with no mulligans. The team that won had an amazing round of -14, 58 and net 56. Now here's the kicker...mulligans bought ? the # and abused for the win. So how real was that score? That is just ridiculous. Why do people feel the need to cheat to win a trophy for a tournament which sole purpose was to raise money for a church? If i'm gonna lose ok but to lose because they bought they're way is stupid. OK GO! Thoughts...let the rant begin.
LindseyM Legend
# 1 5/23/2011 11:26:09 AM
The guy in the pic behind me was the guy that won.
dday39 Professional Champion
# 2 5/23/2011 11:51:04 AM
With many charity golf outings that is the easiest way for them to generate money. A lot of people who play in these events aren't into the auctions. Between mulligans and 50/50's the tournament organizers can do pretty well.
AirFed LowIndex
# 3 5/23/2011 11:52:42 AM
I agree. If you want to sell something to raise money, sell raffle tickets to increase your chances of a prize; use only your skill to win the tournament. And who keeps track of who uses mulligans when? Because with those stats, with all but 2 mulligans, the second shot was 'perfect'. I don't trust mulligan users; and it taints the game.
BUCKNUT Legend
# 4 5/23/2011 12:21:28 PM
I was in the same situation recently. They sold unlimited mulligans and string. This was the first I had ever heard of string but what it was was 5 bucks per 8 ft. length of string. You could buy as many lengths as you wanted and even tie them together. If you hit your shot for example within 7ft. of the pin. you cut 7ft of your string off and the shot is considered made. I understand the whole "raising money for charity" or a "good cause" thing, but like Lindsey my team came into the tournament not knowing the details and without a "fat" wallet so we end up shooting a -10 straight up while the winners were some ridiculous -25 with a whole roll of string and 20 mulligans. I can deal with that. We lost. I can deal with that also. What really got me was when I walked into the clubhouse to see what was up and the SOB's with -25 and so are sitting in there gloating and chest thumping like they did SOMETHING! Man F' yall. I promised then I would NEVER get into another tourny. Charity or not UNLESS It's and EVEN playing field for all. If for charity or a good cause. DONATE the money. DON'T SELL CHEATS! Not eveyone has the same sized wallet.
Mongo68 Legend
# 5 5/23/2011 12:33:49 PM
I don't mind mulligans because they are usually going to a good cause. But if you let a person or team by so many then you need to have 2 prizes for the winning teams. One prize for the team that didn't use mulligans and one for the team that "bought" their first place finish. It's easy enough to keep track of by have the person selling the mulligans to simply log down how many each team buys. It should also be known to the teams that it's "use them or lose them". I also agree with dday39, that it's the easiest way to generate money for a cause. Without it, there wouldn't be nearly as much in revenue.
ngm0112 Professional Champion
# 6 5/23/2011 1:10:19 PM
How much were the mulligans? I think it should be $20.00 each limit 2 for each team.
cabslamer Professional Champion
# 7 5/23/2011 1:22:44 PM
I play in two tournaments a year that sells muligans, at both they have a donation box or jar for the people that don't buy or didn't bring their wallet(me the last one) to donate to the cause. I personally go to these fund-raisers to have fun and to see friends that i don't see regularly,not to "claim the trophy". To me its the only way to play in these events.
MikeNomgi Professional Champion
# 8 5/23/2011 2:49:02 PM
Mulligans are sold at just about every charity tournament I've ever played in, and that's a lot. It's for a good cause, which is the reason you've forked over your money to play. Most of the winners of these events are questionable, anyway. Just play and have fun, knowing you've done something that will benefit others. Or buy plenty of Mulligans.
BUCKNUT Legend
# 9 5/23/2011 3:16:42 PM
Mulligans are sold at just about every charity tournament I've ever played in, and that's a lot. It's for a good cause, which is the reason you've forked over your money to play. Most of the winners of these events are questionable, anyway. Just play and have fun, knowing you've done something that will benefit others. Or buy plenty of Mulligans. I agree with ya. It's suppose dto be fun, but when you get a team full of pricks acting like Shooter McGavin thinking they are something else. When all they did was fork over 200 more dollars than your team for mulligns and 100 ft. of string the fun goes out the window quickly and then it becomes personel.
obsessed1 Professional Champion
# 10 5/23/2011 3:22:08 PM
As I volunteer for a church and work with youth on a weekly basis, the mulligan's and tee buster's help alot with providing supplies and money for mission trips. With the economy the way it is these days, the money that was readily available before is not there anymore, but golfers are always there. We have had several people get upset over the use of mulligans and I try to remind them that the money that is being generated is going to either feed the poor, help build needed buildings and/or sometimes to just help provide drinkable water. I also thank them for always being the first to step up and play for us and provide a much needed source of funding that is always there, no matter the state of the economy elsewhere. I believe it is a great testament to the game of golf and the love that people have for it in that they are always there to support the game and others.
TheMrD234 Professional Champion
# 11 5/23/2011 4:17:45 PM
If you play in a charity event( mulligans, raffle tickets, string, pay to hit from where Daly's drive would land etc.) are sold to make money. It's about the charity. It's not about the golf. For golf, stick to club championships and hope the handicaps are true. I remember feeling as you do about the first charity event in which I participated. Now, I contribute what I am comfortable with, play golf, and have fun. I can't afford to buy a victory trophy for every tournament!! Think Charity...Think Donation.....Don't think Winning Golf.
Robert Premeaux Jr. Professional Champion
# 12 5/23/2011 5:06:21 PM
If you're playing in a scramble, you're already cheating. If you want to win one of those things, you have to buy mulligans and all the games they might have. Or load the team with three plus handicap players. Also, every charity scramble I've ever played in typically required a sub-60 round to win. Occasionally a 60 or 61 might win. Obviously, different cities and regions are probably different, but I wouldn't expect to win a thing for anything less than 11 or 12 under. Oh ... and if the winning team shot 58 and only had two strokes taken off their score, my bet would be they didn't cheat. They might've used every possible mulligan, but a net score that's only two strokes better than gross doesn't raise a red flag.
cogolfer1 LowIndex
# 13 5/23/2011 5:15:59 PM
Don't like that rule the tournament you played in had in place. That's stupid and so are the idiots who bought the mulligans and won. I limit myself to 1 mulligan a round unless I'm prepping for a tournament or something which Trae Anderson can definitely tell you about.
MikeNomgi Professional Champion
# 14 5/23/2011 6:01:57 PM
Don't like that rule the tournament you played in had in place. That's stupid and so are the idiots who bought the mulligans and won. I limit myself to 1 mulligan a round unless I'm prepping for a tournament or something which Trae Anderson can definitely tell you about. It's not a tournament, it's a charity event! The money for Mulligans goes to the charity. It's simply a way to raise more money. It's not about winning. This isn't the club championship or the big annual member-guest tournament of the year. IT'S A FREAKIN CHARITY!!! Once you play in a few of them you'll understand.
heartotexas Professional Champion
# 15 5/23/2011 6:10:32 PM
Good topic Lindsey. Congrats to you and your team for a mulligan free net 64. That's awesome!!! Bragging rights for sure, which apparently a lot of other teams have nothing to brag about in their golf game. We do a couple of charity tournaments a year, and well, we always buy mulligans. But you know what?, Your posting and the comments I've read inspire me to never buy mulligans but instead contribute a little more than the entry fee. That way if my team shoots a net 64, we too will have something to brag about!! In fact, I'll turn our scorecard in with great big letters on it that say, "MULLIGAN FREE ROUND!" :)

Legend

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This may be a hot topic to discuss but has been irritating me since Saturday.
Mulligans....bought at a tournament for the advantage of improving your score. I don't buy them but many other players did.
I played in a tournament this weekend for charity. It was for a local church and scholarships. When I checked in the lady asked if I wanted to buy mulligans I quickly said no and walked away. I then looked at rules sheet and noticed that each team member could buy 4 mulligans which equaled 16 mulligans a team. This blew my mind.
My team and I had a decent round of -5, 67 and a net 64 with no mulligans. The team that won had an amazing round of -14, 58 and net 56. Now here's the kicker...mulligans bought ? the # and abused for the win. So how real was that score? That is just ridiculous. Why do people feel the need to cheat to win a trophy for a tournament which sole purpose was to raise money for a church?
If i'm gonna lose ok but to lose because they bought they're way is stupid.

OK GO! Thoughts...let the rant begin.

LindseyM

Legend

# 1 5/23/2011 11:26:09 AM

The guy in the pic behind me was the guy that won.

dday39

Professional Champion

# 2 5/23/2011 11:51:04 AM

With many charity golf outings that is the easiest way for them to generate money. A lot of people who play in these events aren't into the auctions. Between mulligans and 50/50's the tournament organizers can do pretty well.

AirFed

LowIndex

# 3 5/23/2011 11:52:42 AM

I agree. If you want to sell something to raise money, sell raffle tickets to increase your chances of a prize; use only your skill to win the tournament.

And who keeps track of who uses mulligans when? Because with those stats, with all but 2 mulligans, the second shot was 'perfect'. I don't trust mulligan users; and it taints the game.

BUCKNUT

Legend

# 4 5/23/2011 12:21:28 PM

I was in the same situation recently. They sold unlimited mulligans and string. This was the first I had ever heard of string but what it was was 5 bucks per 8 ft. length of string. You could buy as many lengths as you wanted and even tie them together. If you hit your shot for example within 7ft. of the pin. you cut 7ft of your string off and the shot is considered made. I understand the whole "raising money for charity" or a "good cause" thing, but like Lindsey my team came into the tournament not knowing the details and without a "fat" wallet so we end up shooting a -10 straight up while the winners were some ridiculous -25 with a whole roll of string and 20 mulligans. I can deal with that. We lost. I can deal with that also. What really got me was when I walked into the clubhouse to see what was up and the SOB's with -25 and so are sitting in there gloating and chest thumping like they did SOMETHING! Man F' yall. I promised then I would NEVER get into another tourny. Charity or not UNLESS It's and EVEN playing field for all. If for charity or a good cause. DONATE the money. DON'T SELL CHEATS! Not eveyone has the same sized wallet.

Mongo68

Legend

# 5 5/23/2011 12:33:49 PM

I don't mind mulligans because they are usually going to a good cause. But if you let a person or team by so many then you need to have 2 prizes for the winning teams. One prize for the team that didn't use mulligans and one for the team that "bought" their first place finish. It's easy enough to keep track of by have the person selling the mulligans to simply log down how many each team buys. It should also be known to the teams that it's "use them or lose them".

I also agree with dday39, that it's the easiest way to generate money for a cause. Without it, there wouldn't be nearly as much in revenue.

ngm0112

Professional Champion

# 6 5/23/2011 1:10:19 PM

How much were the mulligans? I think it should be $20.00 each limit 2 for each team.

cabslamer

Professional Champion

# 7 5/23/2011 1:22:44 PM

I play in two tournaments a year that sells muligans, at both they have a donation box or jar for the people that don't buy or didn't bring their wallet(me the last one) to donate to the cause. I personally go to these fund-raisers to have fun and to see friends that i don't see regularly,not to "claim the trophy". To me its the only way to play in these events.

MikeNomgi

Professional Champion

# 8 5/23/2011 2:49:02 PM

Mulligans are sold at just about every charity tournament I've ever played in, and that's a lot. It's for a good cause, which is the reason you've forked over your money to play. Most of the winners of these events are questionable, anyway. Just play and have fun, knowing you've done something that will benefit others. Or buy plenty of Mulligans.

BUCKNUT

Legend

# 9 5/23/2011 3:16:42 PM

Mulligans are sold at just about every charity tournament I've ever played in, and that's a lot. It's for a good cause, which is the reason you've forked over your money to play. Most of the winners of these events are questionable, anyway. Just play and have fun, knowing you've done something that will benefit others. Or buy plenty of Mulligans.

I agree with ya. It's suppose dto be fun, but when you get a team full of pricks acting like Shooter McGavin thinking they are something else. When all they did was fork over 200 more dollars than your team for mulligns and 100 ft. of string the fun goes out the window quickly and then it becomes personel.

obsessed1

Professional Champion

# 10 5/23/2011 3:22:08 PM

As I volunteer for a church and work with youth on a weekly basis, the mulligan's and tee buster's help alot with providing supplies and money for mission trips. With the economy the way it is these days, the money that was readily available before is not there anymore, but golfers are always there. We have had several people get upset over the use of mulligans and I try to remind them that the money that is being generated is going to either feed the poor, help build needed buildings and/or sometimes to just help provide drinkable water. I also thank them for always being the first to step up and play for us and provide a much needed source of funding that is always there, no matter the state of the economy elsewhere. I believe it is a great testament to the game of golf and the love that people have for it in that they are always there to support the game and others.

TheMrD234

Professional Champion

# 11 5/23/2011 4:17:45 PM

If you play in a charity event( mulligans, raffle tickets, string, pay to hit from where Daly's drive would land etc.) are sold to make money. It's about the charity. It's not about the golf. For golf, stick to club championships and hope the handicaps are true. I remember feeling as you do about the first charity event in which I participated. Now, I contribute what I am comfortable with, play golf, and have fun. I can't afford to buy a victory trophy for every tournament!! Think Charity...Think Donation.....Don't think Winning Golf.

Robert Premeaux Jr.

Professional Champion

# 12 5/23/2011 5:06:21 PM

If you're playing in a scramble, you're already cheating. If you want to win one of those things, you have to buy mulligans and all the games they might have. Or load the team with three plus handicap players.

Also, every charity scramble I've ever played in typically required a sub-60 round to win. Occasionally a 60 or 61 might win. Obviously, different cities and regions are probably different, but I wouldn't expect to win a thing for anything less than 11 or 12 under.

Oh ... and if the winning team shot 58 and only had two strokes taken off their score, my bet would be they didn't cheat. They might've used every possible mulligan, but a net score that's only two strokes better than gross doesn't raise a red flag.

cogolfer1

LowIndex

# 13 5/23/2011 5:15:59 PM

Don't like that rule the tournament you played in had in place. That's stupid and so are the idiots who bought the mulligans and won. I limit myself to 1 mulligan a round unless I'm prepping for a tournament or something which Trae Anderson can definitely tell you about.

MikeNomgi

Professional Champion

# 14 5/23/2011 6:01:57 PM

Don't like that rule the tournament you played in had in place. That's stupid and so are the idiots who bought the mulligans and won. I limit myself to 1 mulligan a round unless I'm prepping for a tournament or something which Trae Anderson can definitely tell you about.

It's not a tournament, it's a charity event! The money for Mulligans goes to the charity. It's simply a way to raise more money. It's not about winning. This isn't the club championship or the big annual member-guest tournament of the year. IT'S A FREAKIN CHARITY!!!

Once you play in a few of them you'll understand.

heartotexas

Professional Champion

# 15 5/23/2011 6:10:32 PM

Good topic Lindsey. Congrats to you and your team for a mulligan free net 64. That's awesome!!! Bragging rights for sure, which apparently a lot of other teams have nothing to brag about in their golf game.

We do a couple of charity tournaments a year, and well, we always buy mulligans. But you know what?, Your posting and the comments I've read inspire me to never buy mulligans but instead contribute a little more than the entry fee. That way if my team shoots a net 64, we too will have something to brag about!! In fact, I'll turn our scorecard in with great big letters on it that say, "MULLIGAN FREE ROUND!" :)

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