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Gregory Schessler
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I've been looking around at new putter. I've narrowed it down to the final four but having trouble weeding it down from there.

Putting Problems:
Pulls, and leaving putts dead in the hole just short.

Criteria:
Face Balance, High MOI, Alignment -- Lines, Forgiveness on off center hits.

Top Four Putter Choices - in no particular order:
Scotty C - Kombi
Odyseey White Ice Sabertooth
Taylormade Ghost Spider
Ping In Craz-E

The Ghost Spide is really had a good roll but the jury may still be out on it since its so now. I've heard a lot of great reviews and the alignment is really fantastic. The only down side I see with this putter is -- is the putter paint seems to chip easy and show dents more than other putters.

Anyone have any advice.
gj24
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# 1    10/18/2011 10:40:25 PM   
I perfer the Kombi. Another great putter is the Rife IMO. That putter will help with all of those problems as well. Just go to your local proshop and most places wll let you demo several or several rounds. Good luck and keep us posted~


Goynes42
Professional Champion
 
# 2    10/18/2011 11:14:44 PM   
If you're pulling putts, you probably don't want a face-balanced putter. Get a toe-down putter. More weight in the toe makes it harder to close through impact, thus less tendency to pull putts.

You seriously can't go wrong with an Anser-style putter.


armygrunt47
Professional Champion
 
# 3    10/18/2011 11:21:15 PM   
Try the TM and Scotty. Both are really nice putters and the extra weight that both have should keep the club head a little more stable. My brother plays with the Ping. I personally dont like the feel of it or the sound that the impact of the ball makes on it. Havent tried the Odassey so I cant really comment on it.


Mark Simmons
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# 4    10/18/2011 11:46:19 PM   
Gregory, what is your current putter? It would be helpful to know where you are coming from.


Robert Premeaux Jr.
Professional Champion
 
# 5    10/19/2011 12:41:19 AM   

If you're pulling putts, you probably don't want a face-balanced putter. Get a toe-down putter. More weight in the toe makes it harder to close through impact, thus less tendency to pull putts.

You seriously can't go wrong with an Anser-style putter.


Yes, Anser = perfection.

And don't be afraid to try a mid-sized or larger grip. The SuperStroke "slim" has helped me keep my left hand from collapsing and right hand from taking over, which results in a hook/pull.


armygrunt47
Professional Champion
 
# 6    10/19/2011 8:57:41 AM   


If you're pulling putts, you probably don't want a face-balanced putter. Get a toe-down putter. More weight in the toe makes it harder to close through impact, thus less tendency to pull putts.

You seriously can't go wrong with an Anser-style putter.


Yes, Anser = perfection.

And don't be afraid to try a mid-sized or larger grip. The SuperStroke "slim" has helped me keep my left hand from collapsing and right hand from taking over, which results in a hook/pull.


I have had a Winn Mid size Jubbo grip on mine for about a year and it has helped alot too. Plus it isnt as expensive as the Superstroke.


# 7    10/19/2011 10:33:16 AM   
gj24's Rife is pretty sweet and it seems to treat him well. jdubs(m.i.a.) has a Scotty and it's nice but i don't get the $300 price tag. definitely different then my Sabertooth which i really like. i guess i could get used to a Scotty but i think mine has a better balance and feel to it. never tried the Taylormade but they look great. i'd see if i could hit a few balls with each one and see what works for you. all of them are nice putters and hopefully you find the one that suits you best.


dewsweeper
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# 8    10/19/2011 11:12:09 AM   
All of your current choices are face balance putters.

However, your misses were mostly pulls this tells me your NATURAL putter stroke is probably not a straight back and straight through motion.

If this is the case, your natural putting stroke is with a slight arc, then you should use a putter with slight toe-hang ( like heel shafted putters ) and go with that instead of forcing yourself to use the face balanced putters.

Another thought, a good putter is the one you feel good putting with not the most expensive putter you could afford.


Gregory Schessler
Professional Champion
 
# 9    10/19/2011 10:07:25 PM   
Thanks for the feed buy everyone.

My current putter is an Odyseey 330 Mallet White Hot XG. It has a slight toe hang. I like this putter because of the high def alignment aid. The alignment really stands out but not overly complicated to the eye.
I also have an Odyseey blade #1.

I've tried various grips and even putter lengths. Grips -- tried both sizes of super strokes. Personally I liked the mid size but could tell I lost some feel. Plus it didn't help with my pulls. So I went back to a normal grip...just like the feel. Length I got both standard and a long putter. I'm just too inconsistant with the long putter...just need a little more practice.

The pulls come into play on short putters inside 2ft to 8ft...especially under pressure. My instructor gave me some drill on putting with my left hand (lead hand) only. Point of the drill was to release the club properly and help go down the line better. He also said I have an arc stroke...which is fine...just so long as I follow through more down the line. Its a work in progress.

In the past I've putted cross handed, claw and with a long putter. Overall, I've had both sucess and misfortune with all of them. Honestly...I see benifits and draw back to each method. To anyone out there reading this...my advice is use what ever makes the ball drop the most. For me, I keep coming back to my convential grip and stroke. Like most things in golf...the less complicated and less I have to think about the better.

I know my stroke points to a toe balance putter but on the practice green a face balance just make the ball go in the hole more. Maybe its setup, or alignment or just mental. Your guess is as good as mine.

I've putted with all the putters except the kombi. Honestly I can't find one. I putted for an hour yesterday at Dicks and an hour the day before at Golf Galaxy.
Things I've noticed:
1.) The TM pure roll insert does seem to make the ball come off the face rolling a little earlier and better than the others. The doesn't seem to jump or skid. Other things I noticed -- the TM ghost paint seems to show wear worse than the other putters in the line up.

2.) The Ping In Craz-Y tends to have a different sound than the others. Its...well like a high pitched ping. The only other time a clubs sound had affect me was when I tested the Hi-Bore driver...just too loud for my liking. The guys in the store said the ping insert is one of the most firm on the market.

3.) The Sabertooth...just got the solid feel like all Odyseey.

All in all ... JURY IS STILL OUT!!!


Robert Premeaux Jr.
Professional Champion
 
# 10    10/20/2011 12:29:43 AM   



If you're pulling putts, you probably don't want a face-balanced putter. Get a toe-down putter. More weight in the toe makes it harder to close through impact, thus less tendency to pull putts.

You seriously can't go wrong with an Anser-style putter.


Yes, Anser = perfection.

And don't be afraid to try a mid-sized or larger grip. The SuperStroke "slim" has helped me keep my left hand from collapsing and right hand from taking over, which results in a hook/pull.


I have had a Winn Mid size Jubbo grip on mine for about a year and it has helped alot too. Plus it isnt as expensive as the Superstroke.


Unfortunately the Super Stroke "Slim" is not cheap. You're dead right about that.

But it is so perfect for me that I'm considering buying 2-3 and putting them away in the closet for future use -- in case they stop making it. My putting has improved quite a bit since I changed to that grip, and now that I've found the perfect overall putter setup (finally!), I don't ever want to have to change.


heartotexas
Professional Champion
 
# 11    10/21/2011 10:51:53 AM   
Switched to this two years ago. Love it!! I shortened the shaft 2 inches to put me "over the ball" more with my current stance/posture. Ping makes some great putters. Tried "mallet" style putters in the past and hate them but sometimes, blade putters feel "wobbly". This is the best of both worlds.


Mark Simmons
Legend
 
# 12    10/21/2011 12:51:23 PM   

My current putter is an Odyseey 330 Mallet White Hot XG...I also have an Odyseey blade #1.

Length I got both standard and a long putter. I'm just too inconsistant with the long putter...just need a little more practice.

In the past I've putted cross handed, claw and with a long putter. Overall, I've had both sucess and misfortune with all of them. Honestly...I see benifits and draw back to each method...For me, I keep coming back to my convential grip and stroke.

It has a slight toe hang...I know my stroke points to a toe balance putter but on the practice green a face balance just make the ball go in the hole more.

I like this putter because of the high def alignment aid.
I went back to a normal grip...just like the feel.

The pulls come into play on short putters inside 2ft to 8ft...especially under pressure. My instructor gave me some drill on putting with my left hand (lead hand) only. Point of the drill was to release the club properly and help go down the line better. He also said I have an arc stroke...which is fine...just so long as I follow through more down the line. Its a work in progress.

Like most things in golf...the less complicated and less I have to think about the better.

The Ping In Craz-Y tends to have a different sound than the others. Its...well like a high pitched ping. The only other time a clubs sound had affect me was when I tested the Hi-Bore driver...just too loud for my liking.


Okay, so what I've noticed is that you've tried a lot of things, came to conclusions on some, but still have a lot of variable or undecided pieces.

Reading through this, here are my thoughts.

It's odd to have both a mallet and a blade putter. Most people find they much prefer one over the other. Mallet putters generally have a higher mass and the weight is distributed differently. Blade putters offer a simpler look and conversely lighter mass that some prefer. The differences in mass usually translate to better or worse distance control with one type. The differences in look usually translate to better alignment with one vs. the other. It could be helpful to you to revisit this and try a bunch of putters from each and see if you have a preference.

I'm wondering a few things regarding your comments on length of putters. You said, "I got both standard and a long putter." Were you referring to your Odyssey mallet and blade, or simply trying out both types in your search? If the former, which is which? Also was it really a long putter, or a belly putter? And is your current thinking to get a standard length or are you undecided?

In trying out the various putters on your short list, which gave you the most precise distance control? Which did you consistently put on your intended line? Which seemed to roll best right off the club? Do an actual stack ranking along these parameters.


Robert Premeaux Jr.
Professional Champion
 
# 13    10/21/2011 4:42:07 PM   

Switched to this two years ago. Love it!! I shortened the shaft 2 inches to put me "over the ball" more with my current stance/posture. Ping makes some great putters. Tried "mallet" style putters in the past and hate them but sometimes, blade putters feel "wobbly". This is the best of both worlds.


One of Ping's best. The older, late 1980s/early 1990s version of the B60 is probably my most favorite putter that I don't own. I really wish I had one.

And that newer version of the B60 is sweet.