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Should PGA players be able to pick and choose tourny's they want or don't want to play in? Especially top ranked players????? i.e. Rory and and especially Westwood ranked #1 deciding not to play at the Players.....I don't think this is fair for the fans or players for that matter trying to gain ground in the world rankings......I think top ranked players should have to play important tourny's which The Players certainly is or give up their ranking....What do you think?
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| # 1 1/26/2011 2:23:52 PM |
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Rory and Westwood can do whatever they want, playing in smaller tournaments means playing for less winnings , which equates to less WGR points. both of those 2 schmucks will be out of the top ten by midyear so let them grab headlines now while they can.
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| # 2 1/26/2011 2:28:21 PM |
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They have done this for years, remember when Tiger 1st came out on Tour, he went to play at the German BMW Open, they gave him $ 3MM appearance fee, a Hotel room with a view of the Golf Course and on his balcony they built him a mini driving range. Who cares if Rory and Westwood want to play in the MINORS!!!
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| # 3 1/26/2011 2:40:35 PM |
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There's about 43 tournaments on the PGA Tour schedule. Most top players don't play more than 25 or so. Tiger and Phil barely make 20. If players were forced by the Tour to play only the "top" tournaments, what would happen to the other events? They only have to play in 15 to keep their card. They almost all (at least the Americans) play the 4 majors, Players, the 3 WGC's, Bay Hill, Memorial, and 3 or 4 of the Fed-Ex Cup events. That almost makes up their 15 tournament requirement.
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| # 4 1/26/2011 3:37:16 PM |
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There's about 43 tournaments on the PGA Tour schedule. Most top players don't play more than 25 or so. Tiger and Phil barely make 20. If players were forced by the Tour to play only the "top" tournaments, what would happen to the other events? They only have to play in 15 to keep their card. They almost all (at least the Americans) play the 4 majors, Players, the 3 WGC's, Bay Hill, Memorial, and 3 or 4 of the Fed-Ex Cup events. That almost makes up their 15 tournament requirement. I hear you....just sucks that the #1 player can just decide not to play a "top" tourny.......I think we are going to see more of this from the top younger players.....Just like the way work ethic has gone in this country with most young people; I don't think younger pro players are going to respect the game and fans as much as players have in the past. Too bad... |
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| # 5 1/26/2011 3:56:58 PM |
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The rule has been the same for years and years ... players have to play a minimum number of tournaments to retain their tour status.
It works. |
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| # 6 1/26/2011 4:16:34 PM |
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There's about 43 tournaments on the PGA Tour schedule. Most top players don't play more than 25 or so. Tiger and Phil barely make 20. If players were forced by the Tour to play only the "top" tournaments, what would happen to the other events? They only have to play in 15 to keep their card. They almost all (at least the Americans) play the 4 majors, Players, the 3 WGC's, Bay Hill, Memorial, and 3 or 4 of the Fed-Ex Cup events. That almost makes up their 15 tournament requirement. I hear you....just sucks that the #1 player can just decide not to play a "top" tourny.......I think we are going to see more of this from the top younger players.....Just like the way work ethic has gone in this country with most young people; I don't think younger pro players are going to respect the game and fans as much as players have in the past. Too bad... I agree. I remember back in 1997 or 98, Tiger pulled out of defending at a tournament he won the previous year because he was tired and needed rest, which prompted some criticism from Jack Nicklaus, who said he couldn't ever remember being tired when he was 21. |
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| # 7 1/26/2011 4:28:29 PM |
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I think this is fine.... there are more tournys around the world then "back in the day"... Also they are not Americans, so there loyalities are different then Stricker, Mickelson, etc. Good point Scott. |
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| # 8 1/26/2011 4:32:09 PM |
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There's about 43 tournaments on the PGA Tour schedule. Most top players don't play more than 25 or so. Tiger and Phil barely make 20. If players were forced by the Tour to play only the "top" tournaments, what would happen to the other events? They only have to play in 15 to keep their card. They almost all (at least the Americans) play the 4 majors, Players, the 3 WGC's, Bay Hill, Memorial, and 3 or 4 of the Fed-Ex Cup events. That almost makes up their 15 tournament requirement. I hear you....just sucks that the #1 player can just decide not to play a "top" tourny.......I think we are going to see more of this from the top younger players.....Just like the way work ethic has gone in this country with most young people; I don't think younger pro players are going to respect the game and fans as much as players have in the past. Too bad... I agree. I remember back in 1997 or 98, Tiger pulled out of defending at a tournament he won the previous year because he was tired and needed rest, which prompted some criticism from Jack Nicklaus, who said he couldn't ever remember being tired when he was 21. Pulling out of an event or not defending as the reigning champion is different from setting up a year's schedule. Yes? I don't mind if a dude says he'll play these 20-25 events and not those other 20 or so events. But if you say you're going to play the John Deere Classic then pull out the week before because you just don't feel like it, you probably should be penalized. And if you're the defending champ of an event, the absolute least you should do is show up, smile pretty for the cameras and shoot a pair of 74s THEN go home and rest. |
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| # 9 1/26/2011 4:45:28 PM |
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There's about 43 tournaments on the PGA Tour schedule. Most top players don't play more than 25 or so. Tiger and Phil barely make 20. If players were forced by the Tour to play only the "top" tournaments, what would happen to the other events? They only have to play in 15 to keep their card. They almost all (at least the Americans) play the 4 majors, Players, the 3 WGC's, Bay Hill, Memorial, and 3 or 4 of the Fed-Ex Cup events. That almost makes up their 15 tournament requirement. I hear you....just sucks that the #1 player can just decide not to play a "top" tourny.......I think we are going to see more of this from the top younger players.....Just like the way work ethic has gone in this country with most young people; I don't think younger pro players are going to respect the game and fans as much as players have in the past. Too bad... I agree. I remember back in 1997 or 98, Tiger pulled out of defending at a tournament he won the previous year because he was tired and needed rest, which prompted some criticism from Jack Nicklaus, who said he couldn't ever remember being tired when he was 21. Pulling out of an event or not defending as the reigning champion is different from setting up a year's schedule. Yes? And if you're the defending champ of an event, the absolute least you should do is show up, smile pretty for the cameras and shoot a pair of 74s THEN go home and rest. Part 1, yes. Part 2, very well stated. You have a way with words. Are you a writer or something? :) |
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| # 10 1/26/2011 4:52:56 PM |
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This is why the Tour is considering making designated tournaments where weak field events like the Bob hope, Zurich, and John Deere get more top ranked players. Rumors are swirling Tiger will play in New Orleans this year.
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| # 11 1/26/2011 5:03:02 PM |
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There's about 43 tournaments on the PGA Tour schedule. Most top players don't play more than 25 or so. Tiger and Phil barely make 20. If players were forced by the Tour to play only the "top" tournaments, what would happen to the other events? They only have to play in 15 to keep their card. They almost all (at least the Americans) play the 4 majors, Players, the 3 WGC's, Bay Hill, Memorial, and 3 or 4 of the Fed-Ex Cup events. That almost makes up their 15 tournament requirement. I hear you....just sucks that the #1 player can just decide not to play a "top" tourny.......I think we are going to see more of this from the top younger players.....Just like the way work ethic has gone in this country with most young people; I don't think younger pro players are going to respect the game and fans as much as players have in the past. Too bad... I agree. I remember back in 1997 or 98, Tiger pulled out of defending at a tournament he won the previous year because he was tired and needed rest, which prompted some criticism from Jack Nicklaus, who said he couldn't ever remember being tired when he was 21. Pulling out of an event or not defending as the reigning champion is different from setting up a year's schedule. Yes? And if you're the defending champ of an event, the absolute least you should do is show up, smile pretty for the cameras and shoot a pair of 74s THEN go home and rest. Part 1, yes. Part 2, very well stated. You have a way with words. Are you a writer or something? :) that's funny ... but seriously ... I live close enough to the Texas events to know that it's a MAJOR drag when a big-name player says he's coming and then doesn't. And I know there's a bunch of stracka members who've had to deal with that in their own areas. And a defending champ not showing up to defend his title ... that's a slap in the face. I love TW, but I was also happy to see Jack bust his peaches for no-showing on a title defense. But I don't have a single problem with Rory or Westwood or Tiger or Phil or whoever setting up their schedule so that they do or don't play a certain event. Their schedule is theirs to set up however they see fit. We all will make judgements and have opinions on their schedules, but ultimately I wouldn't want the general public setting my schedule, so I'm not going to set somebody else's. |
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| # 12 1/26/2011 5:09:44 PM |
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last time i check it was a free country! Robert.. there Euro Players! The good old United states isnt the only place people play pro golf.. they have a tour over there also... Points and everything.. trophys too!
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| # 13 1/26/2011 5:21:32 PM |
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There's about 43 tournaments on the PGA Tour schedule. Most top players don't play more than 25 or so. Tiger and Phil barely make 20. If players were forced by the Tour to play only the "top" tournaments, what would happen to the other events? They only have to play in 15 to keep their card. They almost all (at least the Americans) play the 4 majors, Players, the 3 WGC's, Bay Hill, Memorial, and 3 or 4 of the Fed-Ex Cup events. That almost makes up their 15 tournament requirement. I hear you....just sucks that the #1 player can just decide not to play a "top" tourny.......I think we are going to see more of this from the top younger players.....Just like the way work ethic has gone in this country with most young people; I don't think younger pro players are going to respect the game and fans as much as players have in the past. Too bad... I agree. I remember back in 1997 or 98, Tiger pulled out of defending at a tournament he won the previous year because he was tired and needed rest, which prompted some criticism from Jack Nicklaus, who said he couldn't ever remember being tired when he was 21. Pulling out of an event or not defending as the reigning champion is different from setting up a year's schedule. Yes? And if you're the defending champ of an event, the absolute least you should do is show up, smile pretty for the cameras and shoot a pair of 74s THEN go home and rest. Part 1, yes. Part 2, very well stated. You have a way with words. Are you a writer or something? :) that's funny ... but seriously ... I live close enough to the Texas events to know that it's a MAJOR drag when a big-name player says he's coming and then doesn't. And I know there's a bunch of stracka members who've had to deal with that in their own areas. And a defending champ not showing up to defend his title ... that's a slap in the face. I love TW, but I was also happy to see Jack bust his peaches for no-showing on a title defense. But I don't have a single problem with Rory or Westwood or Tiger or Phil or whoever setting up their schedule so that they do or don't play a certain event. Their schedule is theirs to set up however they see fit. We all will make judgements and have opinions on their schedules, but ultimately I wouldn't want the general public setting my schedule, so I'm not going to set somebody else's. I agree. They are independent contractors, and should have the freedom to play when and where they wish. That said, the suits in Ponte Vedra have been making noises for some time now about possibly requiring members to play lesser tier tournaments on a rotating basis, maybe every 4 years or so. It has a fair amount of player support as well, though not from the marquee names. If the less prestigious events start dropping off because of lack of sponsorship due to declining quality of fields and subsequent declining attendence revenue, we may see some sort of rule along these lines implemented. |
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| # 14 1/26/2011 5:42:15 PM |
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There's about 43 tournaments on the PGA Tour schedule. Most top players don't play more than 25 or so. Tiger and Phil barely make 20. If players were forced by the Tour to play only the "top" tournaments, what would happen to the other events? They only have to play in 15 to keep their card. They almost all (at least the Americans) play the 4 majors, Players, the 3 WGC's, Bay Hill, Memorial, and 3 or 4 of the Fed-Ex Cup events. That almost makes up their 15 tournament requirement. I hear you....just sucks that the #1 player can just decide not to play a "top" tourny.......I think we are going to see more of this from the top younger players.....Just like the way work ethic has gone in this country with most young people; I don't think younger pro players are going to respect the game and fans as much as players have in the past. Too bad... I agree. I remember back in 1997 or 98, Tiger pulled out of defending at a tournament he won the previous year because he was tired and needed rest, which prompted some criticism from Jack Nicklaus, who said he couldn't ever remember being tired when he was 21. Pulling out of an event or not defending as the reigning champion is different from setting up a year's schedule. Yes? And if you're the defending champ of an event, the absolute least you should do is show up, smile pretty for the cameras and shoot a pair of 74s THEN go home and rest. Part 1, yes. Part 2, very well stated. You have a way with words. Are you a writer or something? :) that's funny ... but seriously ... I live close enough to the Texas events to know that it's a MAJOR drag when a big-name player says he's coming and then doesn't. And I know there's a bunch of stracka members who've had to deal with that in their own areas. And a defending champ not showing up to defend his title ... that's a slap in the face. I love TW, but I was also happy to see Jack bust his peaches for no-showing on a title defense. But I don't have a single problem with Rory or Westwood or Tiger or Phil or whoever setting up their schedule so that they do or don't play a certain event. Their schedule is theirs to set up however they see fit. We all will make judgements and have opinions on their schedules, but ultimately I wouldn't want the general public setting my schedule, so I'm not going to set somebody else's. I agree. They are independent contractors, and should have the freedom to play when and where they wish. That said, the suits in Ponte Vedra have been making noises for some time now about possibly requiring members to play lesser tier tournaments on a rotating basis, maybe every 4 years or so. It has a fair amount of player support as well, though not from the marquee names. If the less prestigious events start dropping off because of lack of sponsorship due to declining quality of fields and subsequent declining attendence revenue, we may see some sort of rule along these lines implemented. Makes sense to me. And if the player doesn't like the rules of the PGA Tour, then they can play in the events they're qualified for and spend the rest of the year playing on another tour. Just like I don't have a problem with a player setting up his schedule how he sees fit, I also don't have a problem with the PGA Tour setting up its league however it sees fit. Would it really be so bad if Tiger and Phil had to play Colonial once every four years? Or Pebble Beach (which Tiger now skips ... the jerk)? Or the JDC or Greensboro or Harbour Town? I don't envision a mass exodus of the PGA Tour if the once every four years rule or something similar got passed (which I bet it won't ... or am I dead wrong there?). |
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| # 15 1/26/2011 6:30:10 PM |
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I don't think anything will change as far as the PGA tour requiring players to play in smaller tournaments until the smaller tournaments start to disappear. At that point it will hit the rank and file Tour members where it hurts, in the pocketbook. Only then do I see enough of a groundswell from the rank and file players to put enough pressure on the Tour to get the big names to come to smaller tournaments.
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