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MikeNomgi Professional Champion
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From ESPN.com Report: U.S. Ryder Cup team meeting turned ugly ByNick Menta October 3, 2014, 7:46 pm If you thought the U.S. Ryder Cup team's Sunday news conference was bad, you should have seen the meeting they had Saturday night. According to an ESPN report, things spiraled downward for an already-in-trouble U.S. team during a team meeting at the end of Day 2, with the U.S. trailing Europe, 10-6, heading into Sunday singles. Per the report: "Four sources who witnessed the proceedings in the U.S. team room at the Gleneagles Hotel said that Watson took no responsibility for any shortcomings, scoffed at a gift that the U.S. team members gave him, ridiculed several European team players and started the proceedings by denigrating the Americans' play that afternoon. "You could have heard a pin drop in that room,'' one of those in attendance said. "He was pissed. It all went from there.'' The gift was reportedly a replica Ryder Cup signed by the players on the team, which Watson is said to have rebuffed, stating that it meant nothing to him unless the team won. The report further details that Watson started off the meeting - in front of the player's wives, significant others, caddies and a few members of the PGA of America - by saying, "You stink at foursomes," before eventually ceding the floor to vice captains and other players, including Phil Mickelson, who attempted to change the mood and re-energize the team. Mickelson, of course, would go on to criticize Watson in a team news conference the following day, stating that the U.S. players were not involved in the decision-making process and that they lacked the sense of investment Paul Azinger instilled in the team in 2008. One of the sources told ESPN: "[Mickelson] was trying to lead the team and protect the team there when he put himself under the gun pretty good on Sunday night. He did that for a lot of people.''
Scott Harris Professional Champion
# 31 10/8/2014 9:05:04 AM
In addition to that, I think being a leader is when you are the first guy grabbing the plate at the buffet. Sometimes you need to understand that you don't have to wait for the waitress to come to give a drink order. Leaders go grab the plate right away, load it up, and then give the server your drink order so you have something to eat while you wait. Ah, true .... but the well respected leader will get in line first, then hand plates down to the rest of the team !
Scott Harris Professional Champion
# 32 10/8/2014 9:12:57 AM
Leadership is the process of influencing others to accomplish a mission by providing purpose, motivation, and direction. Regardless of the era we are in those principles apply. We need a capt that knows each player on the team, brings out the best in each of them, and puts them in situations where they can succeed. i vote for Vince to be the next captain. Here Here!!! I'll second that motion. Vince knows. Successful management (aka coaching) is a fine art of juggling appropriate coddling and criticism .... direction and discipline .... motivation and message .... respect and responsibility .... in order to achieve desired team driven results. In this particular case, one needs to cultivate 12 different approaches towards one goal .... Thanks guys, but I'm holding out for a spot on the team. Now there's a thought for the next "Get Together" . . . . Vince and Jay as Captains . . . . 3 day match play formats . . . . let's call it something like the ____________ Cup. Enter suggestions on the line .....
Don Freeman Professional Champion
# 33 10/8/2014 9:43:02 AM
Pinky finger up, tea cup.
Pappy82nd Professional Champion
# 34 10/8/2014 9:51:33 PM
Pinky finger up, tea cup. Groin cup
Pappy82nd Professional Champion
# 35 10/8/2014 9:54:22 PM
Pinky finger up, tea cup. Groin cup Better yet "The Red Solo Cup" We could have a theme song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v..

MikeNomgi

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From ESPN.com

Report: U.S. Ryder Cup team meeting turned ugly
ByNick Menta
October 3, 2014, 7:46 pm

If you thought the U.S. Ryder Cup team's Sunday news conference was bad, you should have seen the meeting they had Saturday night.

According to an ESPN report, things spiraled downward for an already-in-trouble U.S. team during a team meeting at the end of Day 2, with the U.S. trailing Europe, 10-6, heading into Sunday singles. Per the report:

"Four sources who witnessed the proceedings in the U.S. team room at the Gleneagles Hotel said that Watson took no responsibility for any shortcomings, scoffed at a gift that the U.S. team members gave him, ridiculed several European team players and started the proceedings by denigrating the Americans' play that afternoon.

"You could have heard a pin drop in that room,'' one of those in attendance said. "He was pissed. It all went from there.''

The gift was reportedly a replica Ryder Cup signed by the players on the team, which Watson is said to have rebuffed, stating that it meant nothing to him unless the team won.

The report further details that Watson started off the meeting - in front of the player's wives, significant others, caddies and a few members of the PGA of America - by saying, "You stink at foursomes," before eventually ceding the floor to vice captains and other players, including Phil Mickelson, who attempted to change the mood and re-energize the team.

Mickelson, of course, would go on to criticize Watson in a team news conference the following day, stating that the U.S. players were not involved in the decision-making process and that they lacked the sense of investment Paul Azinger instilled in the team in 2008.

One of the sources told ESPN: "[Mickelson] was trying to lead the team and protect the team there when he put himself under the gun pretty good on Sunday night. He did that for a lot of people.''

Scott Harris

Professional Champion

# 31 10/8/2014 9:05:04 AM

In addition to that, I think being a leader is when you are the first guy grabbing the plate at the buffet. Sometimes you need to understand that you don't have to wait for the waitress to come to give a drink order. Leaders go grab the plate right away, load it up, and then give the server your drink order so you have something to eat while you wait.

Ah, true .... but the well respected leader will get in line first, then hand plates down to the rest of the team !

Scott Harris

Professional Champion

# 32 10/8/2014 9:12:57 AM

Leadership is the process of influencing others to accomplish a mission by providing purpose, motivation, and direction. Regardless of the era we are in those principles apply. We need a capt that knows each player on the team, brings out the best in each of them, and puts them in situations where they can succeed.

i vote for Vince to be the next captain. Here Here!!!

I'll second that motion. Vince knows. Successful management (aka coaching) is a fine art of juggling appropriate coddling and criticism .... direction and discipline .... motivation and message .... respect and responsibility .... in order to achieve desired team driven results. In this particular case, one needs to cultivate 12 different approaches towards one goal ....

Thanks guys, but I'm holding out for a spot on the team.

Now there's a thought for the next "Get Together" . . . . Vince and Jay as Captains . . . . 3 day match play formats . . . . let's call it something like the ____________ Cup. Enter suggestions on the line .....