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I got to read a few articles in the November issue of Golf Digest today during lunch. I came accross a Question/Answer section that had a topic which we have discussed on here before. " If PGA players had a HDCP, what would it be?" It talked about how much better PGA players are than your scratch golfer and said that at any given time your average PGA player would carry around a plus 5 hdcp and went on to say that if Tiger would have been keeping his HDCP in 2000 he would have been a plus 10. That is just ridiculous! The difference between a 5 hdcp and scratch is huge but from scratch to plus 10 is miles and miles!
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| # 1 11/25/2013 6:20:29 PM |
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The difference between the average PGA player who 3 putts 1.2 times every 3 rounds doesn't even begin to compare to an amateur "near scratch" freak of nature golfer who hasn't 3 putted in 16 rounds. Just sayin'...
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| # 2 11/25/2013 6:52:48 PM |
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The gap between a tour pro and a scratch golfer (like yourself) is wider than the gap between your game and mine.
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| # 3 11/25/2013 8:33:53 PM |
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A Web.com guy is typically a plus 4 or 5 and they work on their game ALL the time. I'll repeat what I told Don and Lee in June... the handicap system is totally flawed. to be areal Scratch golfer, you should shoot Par as your Average score, not every 10 out of 20. To be a PGA Pro, you should shoot under Par on the average every round (on a 7200 yard course).
HUGE difference between the 2. To Don's point... Tiger had 31 3-putts this year in 1080 holes. That's 60 rounds of golf (or 15 tournaments making the cut) and getting a 3-putt every other round. |
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| # 4 11/26/2013 3:21:03 PM |
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I know a golfer (a golf professional) who is generally between a +6 to +7. He has qualified to play in 2 or 3 US Opens. I asked him why he didn't turn pro, and his response was pretty straight forward. He said that he has played with guys on the PGA Tour all the time and they are on another level. That's coming from a guy with a sick handicap.
One other thought...there is a huge difference between a non-competitive round and one that pays cash and helps you stay a pro. It's a level of pressure that very few of us can comprehend. In my old job I played in a lot of charity events and more often than not I was the best player on the course (handicap wise). About half of those tournaments someone would ask me why I don't try to turn pro (hard to believe but true). These people clearly don't play golf that much or know that much about golf. Here is how I respond. The difference between my game and the worst player on the PGA Tour is the difference between my 1st grader getting a perfect score on a 1st grade math test and a student graduating MIT without ever getting a math equation wrong. I shoot par or better on some no name course with an easy slope playing from the blues and someone thinks I am a step or two from pro golf. It's actually laughable. |
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| # 5 11/26/2013 4:33:54 PM |
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In the late 90's I played a lot of Pro-Ams in Mass and Rhode Island. On of the RI courses we played was Rhode Island CC, where they play the CVS Charity Classic. Brad Faxon and Billy Andrade grew up there and at the time had handicaps there. Fax was +4 and Andrade +3. Now, they aren't Tiger and Phil, but Brad and Billy were pretty decent golfers.
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