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As nearly everyone knows, the late release is the primary difference between "us" and "them," those who hit it 100 yards further and more accurately with every club. They set their wrists and they hold that set almost through impact, until gravity forces the clubhead down to the ball.
How do they do that? I guarantee that they DO NOT hold the wrist set with hands. That is impossible. In fact conscious attention to the wrist set will nearly always cause casting, the opposite of what we want. They do that by leading their downswing with hips, just as Hogan taught. The hips turn toward the target AND THEN the shoulders and arms come down, the hands simply hold onto the club handle. As Snead said, the loosest possible grip pressure is better-- because the club is allowed to "flail" through with only gravity. But we can't just turn our hips toward the target. FIRST, we must shift our weight to the front leg "post." The shift can be fairly subtle, but it must happen. No shift means no hips leading which means deceleration before impact, another 200 yard drive with 270 yard exertion. This means a change in the ingrained sequence for most amateurs. According to TPI, 99% of amateurs fail to shift before impact. So how do we make this change? Since the downswing sequence is "software," i.e. in our subconscious mind, we must change or reprogram it by slow motion repetitions. Then sleep. Your subconscious will do it all night! And the next day, you will be closer. And eventually you will have it, a permanent swing change. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.. This is the way I rehearse it. Full early wrist set, put the club in the correct "pre-impact" position aligned with the target, clubhead pointing UP. Then coordinate your downswing with your back knee moving toward your front knee. Try it. You will be amazed that you hit the ball standard distances with what feels like ZERO effort from arms and hands. Your hips provide the power-- just as Hogan taught. http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.. Here is Bobby Jones demonstrating the same principles. He talks about disabling his right hand, preventing from casting. And of course he SPINS his hips both back and forward. That is the source of his power. He was the long-drive champion of his day. Larry |
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| # 1 4/25/2013 1:27:01 PM |
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Finally, a cure for pre-mature release................
lol. |
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| # 2 4/25/2013 1:33:32 PM |
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Finally, a cure for pre-mature release................ lol. All the ladies love it! |
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| # 3 4/25/2013 2:07:46 PM |
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"...Your subconscious will do it all night!..."
This is spot on. 100% accurate. I can only do it in my sleep. Now if something could be done about those daytime hours, when it counts. |
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| # 4 4/25/2013 6:25:36 PM |
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" they" are also 6"-7" and 50 lbs. and 35 + year younger than me.
But their driver is only 50 yards longer. The main difference is how far they hit their irons. On the average 20 yards longer each club. Maybe they used nuked golf balls. |
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| # 5 4/25/2013 7:28:59 PM |
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But we can't just turn our hips toward the target. FIRST, we must shift our weight to the front leg "post." I am a big believer in the power of posting up on the front leg. It does numerous things that are both good form and very powerful. Some of which are: Rotary motion is always superior to lateral motion when it comes to creating speed. But even better is when you combine the two. Just look at how a baseball pitcher pitches, a kicker in football kicks, or a hockey player hits the slap shot. All combine lateral and rotary motion and a degree of 'posting up'. Creating a hard front side with a rotary motion whips the arms (and in fact the whole back side) around the spine creating tremendous speed. In the golf swing it also helps retain lag, and everyone talks about keeping their head behind the ball. Well when you post up that is automatic. |
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| # 6 4/25/2013 8:20:58 PM |
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But we can't just turn our hips toward the target. FIRST, we must shift our weight to the front leg "post." I am a big believer in the power of posting up on the front leg. It does numerous things that are both good form and very powerful. Some of which are: Rotary motion is always superior to lateral motion when it comes to creating speed. But even better is when you combine the two. Just look at how a baseball pitcher pitches, a kicker in football kicks, or a hockey player hits the slap shot. All combine lateral and rotary motion and a degree of 'posting up'. Creating a hard front side with a rotary motion whips the arms (and in fact the whole back side) around the spine creating tremendous speed. In the golf swing it also helps retain lag, and everyone talks about keeping their head behind the ball. Well when you post up that is automatic. I realize it sounds odd, but how do you do this athletically? Whenever I try to "post up" I feel disjointed (i.e., no fluidity or harmony in the swing), awkward, unbalanced, tense, and like I am swaying way too far left. I mis-hit the ball. |
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| # 7 4/26/2013 12:41:22 AM |
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I realize it sounds odd, but how do you do this athletically? Whenever I try to "post up" I feel disjointed (i.e., no fluidity or harmony in the swing), awkward, unbalanced, tense, and like I am swaying way too far left. I mis-hit the ball. Bill, it doesn't sound odd at all--it sounds familiar! There is no doubt in my mind, this is an athletic move and takes practice. Remember learning to throw a baseball? How did it feel at first? Disjointed? Awkward? Unbalanced? Tense? Me too. I liked Alan's comments. Good stuff. I would however, add that I found a few things that helped me speed up the process. 1. I found it helpful to plant my front foot into the ground after pushing off the back foot. Kind of an exagerated move to get things started off right. Some folks even allow their front heel to lift on the backswing and then plant it. 2. Make lots of practice swings posting up WITHOUT A BALL. Focus on perceiving your balance throughout. Getting rid of the ball allows you to focus on your balance. You've got a lot less to think about. Once I reach the point where the post up seems solid and I'm consistently maintaining balance throughout, then I introduce the ball. The key is to continue the ingrained swing without regard to making good contact. However, you use the contact feedback to make small adjustments to your setup, not your swing. Keep the swing consistent. The adjustments should be things like setting up closer or farther from the ball or slight adjustments in how far your bend at the hips. |
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| # 8 4/26/2013 11:33:27 AM |
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I realize it sounds odd, but how do you do this athletically? Whenever I try to "post up" I feel disjointed (i.e., no fluidity or harmony in the swing), awkward, unbalanced, tense, and like I am swaying way too far left. I mis-hit the ball. Bill, it doesn't sound odd at all--it sounds familiar! There is no doubt in my mind, this is an athletic move and takes practice. Remember learning to throw a baseball? How did it feel at first? Disjointed? Awkward? Unbalanced? Tense? Me too. I liked Alan's comments. Good stuff. I would however, add that I found a few things that helped me speed up the process. 1. I found it helpful to plant my front foot into the ground after pushing off the back foot. Kind of an exagerated move to get things started off right. Some folks even allow their front heel to lift on the backswing and then plant it. 2. Make lots of practice swings posting up WITHOUT A BALL. Focus on perceiving your balance throughout. Getting rid of the ball allows you to focus on your balance. You've got a lot less to think about. Once I reach the point where the post up seems solid and I'm consistently maintaining balance throughout, then I introduce the ball. The key is to continue the ingrained swing without regard to making good contact. However, you use the contact feedback to make small adjustments to your setup, not your swing. Keep the swing consistent. The adjustments should be things like setting up closer or farther from the ball or slight adjustments in how far your bend at the hips. http://www.ushandicap.com/golf.. Notice he says "as you take the club back..." He has started his shift to his front leg POST long before he finishes the backswing. Just like Hogan did. Most amateurs are VERY LATE in their shift because they swing before their lower body has had time to position itself. Notice his impact rehearsals are what I am doing in the video in the first post. I have to rehearse this over and over again, then hit balls only a few yards, etc. because I wasn't doing this before-- and neither do about 99% of amateurs. I was always LATE. The hands come down and our back knee move together. Larry |
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| # 9 4/26/2013 12:50:22 PM |
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Notice he says "as you take the club back..." He has started his shift to his front leg POST long before he finishes the backswing. Just like Hogan did. Most amateurs are VERY LATE in their shift because they swing before their lower body has had time to position itself. True, and starting the weight shift before the backswing has completed makes it an even more athletic move. However, we should add that the reason for doing this is to increase the energy stored by the coil so that more swing speed and distance is generated on the downswing. I'm okay if they progress to this point as they learn the motion, rather than be too worried about this timing at the beginning of the learning process. |
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| # 10 4/26/2013 6:15:59 PM |
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Notice he says "as you take the club back..." He has started his shift to his front leg POST long before he finishes the backswing. Just like Hogan did. Most amateurs are VERY LATE in their shift because they swing before their lower body has had time to position itself. True, and starting the weight shift before the backswing has completed make it an even more athletic move. However, we should add that the reason for doing this is to increase the energy stored by the coil so that more swing speed and distance is generated on the downswing. I'm okay if they progress to this point as they learn the motion, rather than be too worried about this timing at the beginning of the learning process. You will find this interesting and possible something you want to use in your teaching. My pro demonstrates and then has me do the swing in super slow motion. Get it exactly right and hit a ball only a few yards, of course. This is MUCH HARDER than a swing at tempo because the speed can disguise poor balance, etc. In fact Tiger said that is "faking it." Do it slowly to show that you can do it right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.. |
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| # 11 4/26/2013 7:37:47 PM |
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Larry, it seems you are pushing the agenda of your "pro" on the rest of us. Now, I have nothing against someone wanting to learn from their pro .After all, pros are better than us. BUT, I just watched your latest video. You had some serioue issues with stack and tilt. I tried to watch the ball as you hit it but it wasn't easy. One looked like you yanked it, the other looked like you skulled it. It's very hard to sell a "swing technique" to someone on the internet when the video is insuficient and you haven't proven your own quality as a golfer , (enough to give others advice), by not at the very least posting some scores and courses. AT LEAST GIVE US SOME REASON TO BELIEVE IN YOU. Straight up. ..I don't like the way you swing the club. I think its wrong. It's all front side. I also think that if you think you are swinging the club correctly, and you are striking the ball correctly, you should be shooting scores in the mid to high 70's. If not, then your short game sucks. ....But until you decide to post some scores at some courses, you are just another "Blow hard" to me. What scores do you shoot? How often do you shoot them? Where do you play? You keep posting these posts about the proper way to do this, or do that, .......sounds like you are doing nothing more than a cut & paste of some article that you just read. and you keep pushing the need for people to pay $60 an hour for lessons from a "Pro". WTF ? Disclaimer: This post was intended for Larry, and Larry only. All others who may have been offended by this post, I humbly apologize. And, ...Grow a pair ! |
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| # 12 4/26/2013 9:08:11 PM |
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[quote You will find this interesting and possible something you want to use in your teaching. My pro demonstrates and then has me do the swing in super slow motion. Get it exactly right and hit a ball only a few yards, of course. This is MUCH HARDER than a swing at tempo because the speed can disguise poor balance, etc. In fact Tiger said that is "faking it." Do it slowly to show that you can do it right. (-link-cannot-be-displayed-)] But you're not doing it CLOSE to right, Larry. And you would know because???? Alan, you can't afford lessons. You can't afford to hit balls on the range. And you sure can't afford to play a golf course because you are an unemployed dropout. You are essentially a bum, just a guy we see urinating in doorways. Go away. Larry |
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| # 13 4/26/2013 9:10:55 PM |
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Larry, it seems you are pushing the agenda of your "pro" on the rest of us. Now, I have nothing against someone wanting to learn from their pro .After all, pros are better than us. BUT, I just watched your latest video. You had some serioue issues with stack and tilt. I tried to watch the ball as you hit it but it wasn't easy. One looked like you yanked it, the other looked like you skulled it. It's very hard to sell a "swing technique" to someone on the internet when the video is insuficient and you haven't proven your own quality as a golfer , (enough to give others advice), by not at the very least posting some scores and courses. AT LEAST GIVE US SOME REASON TO BELIEVE IN YOU. Straight up. ..I don't like the way you swing the club. I think its wrong. It's all front side. I also think that if you think you are swinging the club correctly, and you are striking the ball correctly, you should be shooting scores in the mid to high 70's. If not, then your short game sucks. ....But until you decide to post some scores at some courses, you are just another "Blow hard" to me. What scores do you shoot? How often do you shoot them? Where do you play? You keep posting these posts about the proper way to do this, or do that, .......sounds like you are doing nothing more than a cut & paste of some article that you just read. and you keep pushing the need for people to pay $60 an hour for lessons from a "Pro". WTF ? Disclaimer: This post was intended for Larry, and Larry only. All others who may have been offended by this post, I humbly apologize. And, ...Grow a pair ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.. If you can't do it in slow motion, you can't do it. This is my teaching pro demonstrating the standard golf swing in slow motion. I do it too because I have ingrained the correct movements. This is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT than doing it fast. In fact Tiger said just doing it at tempo is "faking it." We learn in slow motion. Larry |
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| # 14 4/26/2013 9:49:56 PM |
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Now you are using cut & paste on your own quotes Larry. Your post #18 is a cut and paste of your post #14. You're a fraud Larry.
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| # 15 4/30/2013 7:16:31 PM |
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Larry, it seems you are pushing the agenda of your "pro" on the rest of us. Now, I have nothing against someone wanting to learn from their pro .After all, pros are better than us. BUT, I just watched your latest video. You had some serioue issues with stack and tilt. I tried to watch the ball as you hit it but it wasn't easy. One looked like you yanked it, the other looked like you skulled it. It's very hard to sell a "swing technique" to someone on the internet when the video is insuficient and you haven't proven your own quality as a golfer , (enough to give others advice), by not at the very least posting some scores and courses. AT LEAST GIVE US SOME REASON TO BELIEVE IN YOU. Straight up. ..I don't like the way you swing the club. I think its wrong. It's all front side. I also think that if you think you are swinging the club correctly, and you are striking the ball correctly, you should be shooting scores in the mid to high 70's. If not, then your short game sucks. ....But until you decide to post some scores at some courses, you are just another "Blow hard" to me. What scores do you shoot? How often do you shoot them? Where do you play? You keep posting these posts about the proper way to do this, or do that, .......sounds like you are doing nothing more than a cut & paste of some article that you just read. and you keep pushing the need for people to pay $60 an hour for lessons from a "Pro". WTF ? Disclaimer: This post was intended for Larry, and Larry only. All others who may have been offended by this post, I humbly apologize. And, ...Grow a pair ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.. Here are some full shots today. I am hitting them long and straight enough to hit fairways and greens in regulation. I have admittedly spent more time in recent months working with teaching pros and practicing on the range than on the course and it has paid off. My swing is ready to play competitively now. See you out there! Larry |
