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Timothyjack
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I have been thinking about my driving average and I have a few questions for you guys. What do you guys do?

So you're playing a round and you are using both your driver and your 3-wood to tee off. Would you use your drive with your 3-wood as part of your driving stats. Say it was 250 with your 3-wood. Or say it was a 230 worm burner with your driver. Do you use it?

Also, Do you only count drives in the fairway when tracking your driving distance average? I mean if you hit it, it is part of your average. Say you hit a 300 yard drive but it is not in the fairway. Do you count it. Or do you just leave stats for certain holes empty.

Let me know your thoughts.
MikeNomgi
Professional Champion
 
# 1    6/26/2010 1:42:19 PM   
I never count my 300 yard drives because they tend to bring my average down. If they're not at least 325, I don't record them.


Spiko
Professional Champion
 
# 2    6/26/2010 1:42:23 PM   
You can count pretty much whatever you want, the Tour calculates driving distance the following way, two holes in the course that run opposite each other (this is done to counter the wind), and the driving distance in those 2 holes is averaged regardless where the ball lands, fairway, the rough it does not matter the shot is measured where the ball comes to rest on those two holes


Scola1234
Professional Champion
 
# 3    6/26/2010 1:49:32 PM   
From what I understand the way the driving average is figured for the pros is this...they determine 2 holes on a round that they will measure the players drives and take the average of those.....They don't have to be in the fairway.....I am the chairman for a club on this site....for my members I have them just take their 2 best drives of the day and enter those to determine their average to make it simple......Not sure how or who determines the 2 holes for the pros but I would think they pick the 2 depending on the course they are playing that most players would hit driver on and let it go........You can't use every hole to determine your average because there are some PAR 4's and 5's that with good course management you shouldn't hit driver and that shouldn't have that stat hurt for that.


cogolfer1
LowIndex
 
# 4    6/26/2010 1:51:28 PM   
I'd count them both regardless of contact, distance or accuracy. Heck if I used P wedge off the tee on a Par 5 I'd count it.


Timothyjack
Professional Champion
 
# 5    6/26/2010 1:54:34 PM   

I never count my 300 yard drives because they tend to bring my average down. If they're not at least 325, I don't record them.


Thants funny.


Timothyjack
Professional Champion
 
# 6    6/26/2010 1:59:52 PM   

From what I understand the way the driving average is figured for the pros is this...they determine 2 holes on a round that they will measure the players drives and take the average of those.....They don't have to be in the fairway.....I am the chairman for a club on this site....for my members I have them just take their 2 best drives of the day and enter those to determine their average to make it simple......Not sure how or who determines the 2 holes for the pros but I would think they pick the 2 depending on the course they are playing that most players would hit driver on and let it go........You can't use every hole to determine your average because there are some PAR 4's and 5's that with good course management you shouldn't hit driver and that shouldn't have that stat hurt for that.


With all that said, how do you determine yours? Do you pick 2 holes on a course for yourself? Do you only input your two best drives? Is this really your average then? Its an average of your two best holes on a course, but not necessarily your overall driving average. What about the drives you topped or hit ob and couldn't find. etc.


Timothyjack
Professional Champion
 
# 7    6/26/2010 2:04:14 PM   

I'd count them both regardless of contact, distance or accuracy. Heck if I used P wedge off the tee on a Par 5 I'd count it.


But that takes down your average if you do that. If you are hitting conservative for a course (3-wood), it will take your average down in comparison to a wide open course that you can hit driver every hole. I guess it all depends on how important driving average is to a person. I would like a high driving average, but want a real average, not just my best 2 drives for the day. There has got to be a middle ground to figuring this out. Not all drives, but not only the best 2.


Scola1234
Professional Champion
 
# 8    6/26/2010 2:08:36 PM   


From what I understand the way the driving average is figured for the pros is this...they determine 2 holes on a round that they will measure the players drives and take the average of those.....They don't have to be in the fairway.....I am the chairman for a club on this site....for my members I have them just take their 2 best drives of the day and enter those to determine their average to make it simple......Not sure how or who determines the 2 holes for the pros but I would think they pick the 2 depending on the course they are playing that most players would hit driver on and let it go........You can't use every hole to determine your average because there are some PAR 4's and 5's that with good course management you shouldn't hit driver and that shouldn't have that stat hurt for that.


With all that said, how do you determine yours? Do you pick 2 holes on a course for yourself? Do you only input your two best drives? Is this really your average then? Its an average of your two best holes on a course, but not necessarily your overall driving average. What about the drives you topped or hit ob and couldn't find. etc.


Well; like I said; for the members in our club; I have them pick their best 2 to make it simple and I do the same myself. Is it right; I don't know; you can look at it 2 ways...what really is your driving average; I believe it should be an average of what you drive it when you hit it well with the big stick in your hand; that is a true measure of how far you drive it....If you are using a smaller club to manage the course or if you miss hit one and use that towards your driving average; it's not really a true measure of how you drive the ball. Anyway; I could be wrong about this but thats the way I view it to keep this STAT.


Scola1234
Professional Champion
 
# 9    6/26/2010 2:11:26 PM   


I'd count them both regardless of contact, distance or accuracy. Heck if I used P wedge off the tee on a Par 5 I'd count it.


But that takes down your average if you do that. If you are hitting conservative for a course (3-wood), it will take your average down in comparison to a wide open course that you can hit driver every hole. I guess it all depends on how important driving average is to a person. I would like a high driving average, but want a real average, not just my best 2 drives for the day. There has got to be a middle ground to figuring this out. Not all drives, but not only the best 2.


Then I would thimk for yourself; you should count all drives when you have the big dog in your hand and are going for distance.....Sounds like that would give you the average that you are looking to track.


MikeNomgi
Professional Champion
 
# 10    6/26/2010 5:41:35 PM   

Not sure how or who determines the 2 holes for the pros but I would think they pick the 2 depending on the course they are playing that most players would hit driver on and let it go........You can't use every hole to determine your average because there are some PAR 4's and 5's that with good course management you shouldn't hit driver and that shouldn't have that stat hurt for that.


This is how the Tour selects the two holes to be measured for driving distance:

These drives are measured on two holes per round. Care is taken to select two holes which face in opposite directions to counteract the effect of wind. Drives are measured to the point at which they come to rest regardless of whether they are in the fairway or not.


Racer888
Legend
 
# 11    6/26/2010 6:34:14 PM   
If you are trying to get an average distance off the tee for yourself then you should count all par 4 and par 5 hits off the tee no matter what club you use because you are trying to get a read on your own driving average. If you want to know the average of your driver then only count the hits off the tee with the driver. Does not matter where it comes to rest for driver average only if you are tracking FIR.


# 12    6/26/2010 7:10:33 PM   
my driving average is roughly 5 miles...... to get to my home course and that's about the only time my driving is fairly straight. now, after a round, that's another story


MikeNomgi
Professional Champion
 
# 13    6/26/2010 9:29:44 PM   

my driving average is roughly 5 miles......


Maybe it's the ball you're using. Try the Taylormade Penta. You may pick up an extra 10 yards.


Mark Simmons
Legend
 
# 14    6/26/2010 11:34:55 PM   
Okay Timothy, we'll put aside the wise guys and answer the question you asked.

I put in my driving distance on each hole Stracka lists on the detail, regardless of whether I used my driver or a 3-iron, regardless of whether its in the fairway or hit a tree.

Other than bragging rights, I don't see a lot of value to do anything different. Yes, it does bring down my average.

But hey, I have no problem telling someone my "driving average" is 240, then blast my driver 30 yards past them!


1hacker
Professional Champion
 
# 15    8/25/2011 10:13:50 PM   
for Stracka I post all that I use my driver on. Fo my own use I do as the Pro's do which I see has been reviewed I also keep same for my three wood and irons. This is how I get my average distance with each club.