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Here in Quebec, Yvan Beauchemin is the best tournament player on the senior tour and he's one of the shortest hitters. He can only drive the ball 240 yards. That didn't prevent him from winning five Canadian PGA National Championships and he is one of the most decorated players in Quebec PGA history!

long drives help the short game,Its always easyer to hit a wedge into a par 4 and not a 7 iron.Just remember to practice the complete game. because one without the other is no good.

Well, obviously- But, in my opinion, 99% of the golfing population has more to gain from an improved short game over improved driving.

Good points OB, but 100% of the golf population has more to gain from an improved short game..Until you have been there on drives sitting 280-315 consistently, your opinion on long drives is overrated, is a "mute" opinion..You have no knowledge, or no business posting an opinion on something being overrated when you don't have a clue..Sorry OB, you don't get distance from praticing and practicing on the range with your driver. You either have the club speed or you don't..So us long hitters are not overrated, we are just underestimated...Stats show you may have a couple of guys that perform "ungodly" and can't drive the ball more than 270..But look again and research that average tour player is knocking them bad boys 280yds..Once again, 100% of the golf population can improve on there short game...I see and hear what you were trying to say, but just posted wrong..LONG DRIVES ARE NOT OVERRATED!!! Like to see you step up with some long hitters like me and some buddies and repeat those words...I would love to see you try and beat me hitting your mid to long irons in while I am launching 7-PW at the green...Odds are you better be working on your short game cause we would have ya for lunch..Oh waite a minute, thats right,,,wont come back to the tips with us will ya! 7300yds scares ya don't it.. 100% of golfers can work on there short game on the range. You want distance, get quicker hands and strength with exercises you can do at home..I spend most of my time on irons, wedges, and putting at the practice range..Not trying to increase my distance..I have had that distance since I first grab a club in 1994...Pretty lame post on distance is overrated..

Anyone who is average 83(earxtc) should not be playing the tips no matter how far they hit the ball.

Joe-
I get what you're trying to say, but to discredit players yardages by their score is wrong. Good players can do a lot of things well and that's what brings down scores. Examples being: getting up and down, scrambling, and scoring.

I can absolutely hit my PW 150, but yes I lose some accuracy. I would say my PW is my 135-140 club. My biggest problems that kill my scores are hitting some horrid drives and not getting up and down.

LOL- I tell ya Joe, researching your scores and knowing how the "stracka" system works, you better check yourself before you wreck yourself..Lets see, where do I begin..

To answer your question of who is the longest driver on tour, that would be Bubba..Big Bubba..he sucks!! But my statement was NOT longest driver on tour, but the average tour player..The average tour player is 283.3yds..That is long compared to short knockers like you, and stands true to my original comment..Here is one for ya Joe..#2 player in the world Phil is popping it out there on an average of 294.4yds..How about #1 in stats for G.I.R- Camilio V who averages 291yds a pop..How about #1 on $$ and Fed Ex points Geoff Ogilvy-291 yds..wheeeeeeew weeee!!! Man I love it when people put there foots in there mouths..LOL

Lets throw some salt on your wound a little bit Joe..Looking at your cards and strokes...Yep, just as I fugured...Little putt-putt gent. trying to talk some smack about something he wishes he could do..Out of the 11 scores you played a course with a par 69 and yds 5,109..5 times!!!! That will help that average out to a 7 like it says..then you go on a little trip from home and shoot a 68...NICE...on a yardage of 4,780..LOL..Yep, before you go and run your mouth about something you don't know about...keep it shut will ya..For the record...my average is 83 strokes with a handicap of 4.3 USGA...big considerations are in factor when you step back to the tips boys...that is why its tougher back here..chumps!!! By the way Joe...you still have the nerve to request a friend from me? Consider it wishfull thinking just like your scores...NOT!! LOL- "open mouth and insert foot"..gobble gobble gobble

I hear ya golfman..Bubba belongs on tour..no question..I was just dealing with a chump above named Joe that thinks long hitters "ain't shit" and asked about the longest hitter on tour...with Bubba's distance, he has a huge advantage if he could keep his own head games in check..I am sure you know where I am coming from when dealing with "chumps" like Joe who blow smoke just too blow...I watched Bubba over at FBR Open in Scottsdale this year and he can launch it a mile..he played along with James Nitties, and J.J. Henry and he was always last to hit from the fairway..His approach shots were no where near as accurate as the other 2..why? Who knows.

There would always be arguments of which is more important in golf, distance or short game.
I only know both are important to have a complete game.

However, consider this, one could always seek improvements on the short game; where with distance if you don't have it now you still don't have it later on.

History showed the majority of great players in golf were longer hitters. Not necessary the longest in their era, but among the longest ball strikers.

Very true dewsweeper!! Like I said before...100% of the golf world can benefit from improvement on there short game..Long or short, you still need to chip and putt..I am done on this thread..CHEERS!!

You have to work on the complete game....Long drives help your short game..... always nicer to hit a shorter iron in....and you need the short game to to score...You have to tie it all together to score well.

I wish someone had of punched the guy who ever said "Drive for show...putt for dough.." This guy obviously never played a tight course. Anyone who has ever played in competition knows that you drive for dough, you hit short and long irons for dough, you chip for dough, you blast out of the sand for dough and yes, putt for dough. I believe a blend of distance and accuracy is a huge advantage in this game in that is actually makes the short game easier. Who wants to hit 4-irons into par-4's all day? The proof is in the pudding - most of the technology is geared to make you hit it longer. Hitting it longer just makes the game easier if you can keep it straight.

Are you kidding me? I post a little about my game and you start throwing out personal attacks? Wow.

OK, I've driven many balls over 280. I don't keep my driving distance on here anymore, but I have improved my driving tremendously in the past couple months and my average is probably around 265-270 (even though my HCP has risen lately...interesting)

As I said, I understand long drives can help your game- that isn't the point. But it seems like every bogey golfer out there is fixated on driving the ball longer, when it would be much more to their advantage if they spent more of their practice time on the green. I think most people would agree with this.

Thanks for the invite, I would love to play with you sometime.

Bottom line, putting is th emost important element of the game!

I agree that putting is just as improtant as anything else, but think of it this way. If you miss a 3 foot putt, chances are you just cost yourself a stroke. If you hit a ball out of bounds off the tee, how many strokes did you just cost yourself? It's all important. I just don't think CONTROLLED distance is overrated.