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Timothyjack Professional Champion
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So today, I went and played 18 at a new course, while I was working on a few swing changes I made earlier in the week. Basically having a strong left hand and right to match. Well, it was a complete catastrophe. I had my share of long bombs, but i couldn't control it if it depended on my life. I had nothing good to say about myself the entire front 9. By the 6th hole, I was hitting so all over the place that I stopped keeping score because I was just getting frustrated. Up to that point I had 2 snowman's on 1 & 2, double on 3, triple on 4, 10 on a par 5, and a bogey on 6. So when we get to the 10th hole, I decide that I have been frustrated way too long and needed to happiness. Got myself a beer, put away my driver, and reverted back to my old grip. I played the back side 9 over. Here is where people say the craziest things. So the whole back 9, I am getting talked about by my buddy I play with weekly (shoots low 90's) because I am teeing off with my 3 wood. He's like you need to be a man and use the driver. Here is the thing. I was hitting my 3-wood consistently 250 or more down the center. I was on in two on a 533 yard par 5 using my 3 wood and a 7 wood. He was hitting his driver at most 200 to 215. If that ain't some bullshit, I don't know what is. I was cracking up at this dude. I know he was playing, but that dude was trippin. It just sucks that I ruined that round with that grip change. You ever had someone say something crazy like that? Someone teasing you when you are out hitting them?
OtterMan08 Legend
# 1 7/24/2010 4:57:14 AM
If this guy is hitting a driver 215, I'd say you have plenty to give back if he's got too much to say. "Hey does your wife know you're using her clubs?" or maybe "Gee. does your husband play too?" "Wow, nice chip!!" "It's only 180 to reach the fairway here, you sure you need that much club?" The secret to getting some one out of your head is to get into his.
LyinLewis Legend
# 2 7/24/2010 8:05:06 AM
MY ALL-TIME FAVORITE!!! As most of you know I play 80 year oldf hickory clubs and play them to a single digit handicap. My all-time favorite moment was playing a round with a buddy of mine who also playes hickories. We are standing on the 10th hole. I am sitting at 1 or 2 over par and he is sitting somewhere between 10-13 over par. I take the tee box with my driver...hit an over-draw which leaks a bit more left into the rough somewhere around 270 off the tee. He takes the tee box and hits a high fade with his driver somewhere around 200. He looks me straight in the eye and tells me that he wants to teach me. He was dead serious. He tells me that I overswing with my driver and that if I swung at 50% I would hit every fairway. I respond that while my driver swing may look fast it is at tops swung at 85-90% speed and is very well balanced. He repeats that I should swing at 50%, to which I respond that if I wanted to hit every fairway I would hit my 2 iron. He wouldn't relent and still brings it up. When we reached our two golf balls he yells to me. "This is where your ball is supposed to be...in the fairway!" To which I bet him $100 dollars that I get par or better and he takes a higher score from the fairway. By end of round I don't remember my score but I do remember I had him by near 20 strokes. I love the guy like a brother, but what do you do there?
cogolfer1 LowIndex
# 3 7/24/2010 10:19:20 AM
That's a good one, Timmy. A little over a week ago when I shot a 90 I had a delicate shot around the green where I was shortsided and the pin was running away from me. I hit my shot with a 60 degree trying to flop it and hit it too hard. I was left with an 9 foot putt for bogey which I did make. But after I hit the flop my playing partner asks me if I know how to spin the ball. I say yes, you hit the ball and then you take a good sized divot. And he says, "Well I guess that's one way, but you can open up the clubface and get spin that way." So what's wrong with this picture? 1) I already had my clubface open when I hit this shot. I couldn't spin it though because it was all downhill towards the hole and I was playing from the rough. 2) I had already spun plenty of shots earlier in the day using my explanation.(Thank you Nike One Tour) 3) He couldn't make a golf ball bite to save his life. Every shot from 150 and him he hit released. The only way he got it close was to land the ball 20 yards short of the green.
Dandy Professional Champion
# 4 7/24/2010 2:39:53 PM
My favourite was some asshole hack that figured he had the secret to my improvement in his back pocket. On the second hole (I parred the first) he says, "man, you'd really be somethin' if you learned to tone it down". I smiled (thinking in my head "speak up dick head...tell me all about how I can make doubles like you just did") and said what do you mean? He proceeds to tell me how all the great swings look alike (I'm thinking yeah, like Fyurk and Tiger and Hogan. I never could tell the difference between those three... :), and that I need to model my swing after the greats if I want to get good. My favourite quote, as best as I can try and remember it, was "..it doesen't matter how good your short game is, if you don't swing like a pro, you'll never be any good" I chipped in on 18 for an eagle and an even par 72. That idiot shot 100 something. I'd go one further and say that people say the dumbest things......
LyinLewis Legend
# 5 7/24/2010 2:58:04 PM
Despite my story I posted I should say my real favorite thing is one that happens quite often. I show up on the first tee with someone I have never played against. He looks at me...then he'll look at my golf bag which is full of 80+ year olf hickory clubs...then he'll look back at me and say... "Hey did you pick those up from your grandpa's garage?" I usually just nod and say something like, "Yeah I don't play much golf so I figured I'd play these instead of buying a new set." Then if I am playing well I'll post a 70-something and leave the guy in shock. If I was really mean I would bet the guy that I can beat him with my sticks over his moderns...or maybe just out drive him. I won't go that route, I rather like putting some stranger in shock. I was thinking about playing in my city championship...that would be entertaining.
Timothyjack Professional Champion
# 6 7/24/2010 3:03:05 PM
"I played the back side 9 over. Here is where people say the craziest things. So the whole back 9, I am getting talked about by my buddy I play with weekly (shoots low 90's) because I am teeing off with my 3 wood. He's like you need to be a man and use the driver. Here is the thing. I was hitting my 3-wood consistently 250 or more down the center. I was on in two on a 533 yard par 5 using my 3 wood and a 7 wood. He was hitting his driver at most 200 to 215." You hit your 3 wood 250 plus+ consistently down the middle, on in two on a 533 par 5 using 3 wood and 7 wood, WOW!...and you shot a 9 over in the back nine? Just out of curiosity, how good is your short game? You hit your woods that long and straight, you should be playing even par or 4 over at the most buddy. Mabybe you were having a bad day, but just going on what you said in your post. But getting back to what people say what you should hit and what you should not hit...i say, screw them, play your game. That mind trick crap never work with me either, i let them talk all they want. Goes in one ear and out the other for me. That back 9 was an excellent day with all my long woods. But I am usually consistent with those clubs. Its when I incorporate my driver that the score falls apart. I play my driver pretty much every round because I hate feeling like a quitter and like I can't play it. I must have lost 6 balls on the front 9 with my driver and one with my gap wedge. It was pathetic. My short game is average. Im at a place where I almost always two putt. Chipping was a problem on the front with the new grip, but when I reverted back, it was right on. The mind games didn't get to me. I laughed at him because It was like an Abbot and Costello skit. I was out-driving him 40 yards with a 3 wood. I mean, why should I switch to a club I can't hit worth shit.
Timothyjack Professional Champion
# 7 7/24/2010 3:09:51 PM
If this guy is hitting a driver 215, I'd say you have plenty to give back if he's got too much to say. "Hey does your wife know you're using her clubs?" or maybe "Gee. does your husband play too?" "Wow, nice chip!!" "It's only 180 to reach the fairway here, you sure you need that much club?" The secret to getting some one out of your head is to get into his. That is true. Those are all good ones. What he said didn't throw me off my game one bit, it was just funny that he wanted me to hit a club he knows I can't control. Im going to have to get in his head next time. See what I can do to him. Maybe pull out my 5 wood on the tee box and try to out drive him with that. Then when I do that try my 7 wood. That second one might be a stretch.
Timothyjack Professional Champion
# 8 7/24/2010 3:30:16 PM
My favourite was some asshole hack that figured he had the secret to my improvement in his back pocket. On the second hole (I parred the first) he says, "man, you'd really be somethin' if you learned to tone it down". I smiled (thinking in my head "speak up dick head...tell me all about how I can make doubles like you just did") and said what do you mean? He proceeds to tell me how all the great swings look alike (I'm thinking yeah, like Fyurk and Tiger and Hogan. I never could tell the difference between those three... :), and that I need to model my swing after the greats if I want to get good. My favourite quote, as best as I can try and remember it, was "..it doesen't matter how good your short game is, if you don't swing like a pro, you'll never be any good" I chipped in on 18 for an eagle and an even par 72. That idiot shot 100 something. I'd go one further and say that people say the dumbest things...... You're absolutely right. That dude was definitely proof of that. And I think that is my problem to a tee. I have been listening to people like him and Golf Channel and golf magazines and looking at the pro's. My grip is kind of unorthodox bit it works for me. But I see how the magazines and teachers are always teaching to have a strong left grip and how most long ball hitters have a strong left grip and so I keep thinking I can figure it out. But it hasn't worked so far. My problem is that I can not release the club no matter how I practice from a strong grip. Tee in the glove, left hand swings, etc. None seem to work. So I set up with a neutral grip and turn the grip slightly to the left to close the fact of the club a bit. It doesn't look as weird as it sounds when im set up to the ball. Looks pretty normal. Im just not sure If I am removing my ability to work the ball with this grip and that's why I keep trying to go to a more traditional grip and not turn my wrist. Its confusing sometimes because I have made so many changes.
Robert Premeaux Jr. Professional Champion
# 9 7/24/2010 10:51:34 PM
that's a standard duffer's take: hit the driver every chance you get no matter what. if i could count on 250 down the middle with my 3-wood every time, i'd hit it a lot more often off the tee ... and i'd take that dude's money while i were doing it.

Professional Champion

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So today, I went and played 18 at a new course, while I was working on a few swing changes I made earlier in the week. Basically having a strong left hand and right to match. Well, it was a complete catastrophe. I had my share of long bombs, but i couldn't control it if it depended on my life. I had nothing good to say about myself the entire front 9. By the 6th hole, I was hitting so all over the place that I stopped keeping score because I was just getting frustrated. Up to that point I had 2 snowman's on 1 & 2, double on 3, triple on 4, 10 on a par 5, and a bogey on 6.

So when we get to the 10th hole, I decide that I have been frustrated way too long and needed to happiness. Got myself a beer, put away my driver, and reverted back to my old grip.

I played the back side 9 over. Here is where people say the craziest things. So the whole back 9, I am getting talked about by my buddy I play with weekly (shoots low 90's) because I am teeing off with my 3 wood. He's like you need to be a man and use the driver. Here is the thing. I was hitting my 3-wood consistently 250 or more down the center. I was on in two on a 533 yard par 5 using my 3 wood and a 7 wood. He was hitting his driver at most 200 to 215.

If that ain't some bullshit, I don't know what is. I was cracking up at this dude. I know he was playing, but that dude was trippin. It just sucks that I ruined that round with that grip change.

You ever had someone say something crazy like that? Someone teasing you when you are out hitting them?

OtterMan08

Legend

# 1 7/24/2010 4:57:14 AM

If this guy is hitting a driver 215, I'd say you have plenty to give back if he's got too much to say. "Hey does your wife know you're using her clubs?" or maybe "Gee. does your husband play too?" "Wow, nice chip!!" "It's only 180 to reach the fairway here, you sure you need that much club?" The secret to getting some one out of your head is to get into his.

LyinLewis

Legend

# 2 7/24/2010 8:05:06 AM

MY ALL-TIME FAVORITE!!!

As most of you know I play 80 year oldf hickory clubs and play them to a single digit handicap. My all-time favorite moment was playing a round with a buddy of mine who also playes hickories.

We are standing on the 10th hole. I am sitting at 1 or 2 over par and he is sitting somewhere between 10-13 over par. I take the tee box with my driver...hit an over-draw which leaks a bit more left into the rough somewhere around 270 off the tee. He takes the tee box and hits a high fade with his driver somewhere around 200.

He looks me straight in the eye and tells me that he wants to teach me. He was dead serious. He tells me that I overswing with my driver and that if I swung at 50% I would hit every fairway. I respond that while my driver swing may look fast it is at tops swung at 85-90% speed and is very well balanced. He repeats that I should swing at 50%, to which I respond that if I wanted to hit every fairway I would hit my 2 iron.

He wouldn't relent and still brings it up. When we reached our two golf balls he yells to me. "This is where your ball is supposed to be...in the fairway!" To which I bet him $100 dollars that I get par or better and he takes a higher score from the fairway.

By end of round I don't remember my score but I do remember I had him by near 20 strokes. I love the guy like a brother, but what do you do there?

cogolfer1

LowIndex

# 3 7/24/2010 10:19:20 AM

That's a good one, Timmy. A little over a week ago when I shot a 90 I had a delicate shot around the green where I was shortsided and the pin was running away from me. I hit my shot with a 60 degree trying to flop it and hit it too hard. I was left with an 9 foot putt for bogey which I did make. But after I hit the flop my playing partner asks me if I know how to spin the ball. I say yes, you hit the ball and then you take a good sized divot. And he says, "Well I guess that's one way, but you can open up the clubface and get spin that way." So what's wrong with this picture?
1) I already had my clubface open when I hit this shot. I couldn't spin it though because it was all downhill towards the hole and I was playing from the rough.
2) I had already spun plenty of shots earlier in the day using my explanation.(Thank you Nike One Tour)
3) He couldn't make a golf ball bite to save his life. Every shot from 150 and him he hit released. The only way he got it close was to land the ball 20 yards short of the green.

Dandy

Professional Champion

# 4 7/24/2010 2:39:53 PM

My favourite was some asshole hack that figured he had the secret to my improvement in his back pocket. On the second hole (I parred the first) he says, "man, you'd really be somethin' if you learned to tone it down". I smiled (thinking in my head "speak up dick head...tell me all about how I can make doubles like you just did") and said what do you mean? He proceeds to tell me how all the great swings look alike (I'm thinking yeah, like Fyurk and Tiger and Hogan. I never could tell the difference between those three... :), and that I need to model my swing after the greats if I want to get good. My favourite quote, as best as I can try and remember it, was "..it doesen't matter how good your short game is, if you don't swing like a pro, you'll never be any good"

I chipped in on 18 for an eagle and an even par 72. That idiot shot 100 something. I'd go one further and say that people say the dumbest things......

LyinLewis

Legend

# 5 7/24/2010 2:58:04 PM

Despite my story I posted I should say my real favorite thing is one that happens quite often. I show up on the first tee with someone I have never played against. He looks at me...then he'll look at my golf bag which is full of 80+ year olf hickory clubs...then he'll look back at me and say...

"Hey did you pick those up from your grandpa's garage?"

I usually just nod and say something like, "Yeah I don't play much golf so I figured I'd play these instead of buying a new set."

Then if I am playing well I'll post a 70-something and leave the guy in shock. If I was really mean I would bet the guy that I can beat him with my sticks over his moderns...or maybe just out drive him. I won't go that route, I rather like putting some stranger in shock.

I was thinking about playing in my city championship...that would be entertaining.

Timothyjack

Professional Champion

# 6 7/24/2010 3:03:05 PM

"I played the back side 9 over. Here is where people say the craziest things. So the whole back 9, I am getting talked about by my buddy I play with weekly (shoots low 90's) because I am teeing off with my 3 wood. He's like you need to be a man and use the driver. Here is the thing. I was hitting my 3-wood consistently 250 or more down the center. I was on in two on a 533 yard par 5 using my 3 wood and a 7 wood. He was hitting his driver at most 200 to 215."

You hit your 3 wood 250 plus+ consistently down the middle, on in two on a 533 par 5 using 3 wood and 7 wood, WOW!...and you shot a 9 over in the back nine? Just out of curiosity, how good is your short game? You hit your woods that long and straight, you should be playing even par or 4 over at the most buddy. Mabybe you were having a bad day, but just going on what you said in your post. But getting back to what people say what you should hit and what you should not hit...i say, screw them, play your game. That mind trick crap never work with me either, i let them talk all they want. Goes in one ear and out the other for me.

That back 9 was an excellent day with all my long woods. But I am usually consistent with those clubs. Its when I incorporate my driver that the score falls apart. I play my driver pretty much every round because I hate feeling like a quitter and like I can't play it. I must have lost 6 balls on the front 9 with my driver and one with my gap wedge. It was pathetic.

My short game is average. Im at a place where I almost always two putt. Chipping was a problem on the front with the new grip, but when I reverted back, it was right on.

The mind games didn't get to me. I laughed at him because It was like an Abbot and Costello skit. I was out-driving him 40 yards with a 3 wood. I mean, why should I switch to a club I can't hit worth shit.

Timothyjack

Professional Champion

# 7 7/24/2010 3:09:51 PM

If this guy is hitting a driver 215, I'd say you have plenty to give back if he's got too much to say. "Hey does your wife know you're using her clubs?" or maybe "Gee. does your husband play too?" "Wow, nice chip!!" "It's only 180 to reach the fairway here, you sure you need that much club?" The secret to getting some one out of your head is to get into his.

That is true. Those are all good ones. What he said didn't throw me off my game one bit, it was just funny that he wanted me to hit a club he knows I can't control. Im going to have to get in his head next time. See what I can do to him. Maybe pull out my 5 wood on the tee box and try to out drive him with that. Then when I do that try my 7 wood. That second one might be a stretch.

Timothyjack

Professional Champion

# 8 7/24/2010 3:30:16 PM

My favourite was some asshole hack that figured he had the secret to my improvement in his back pocket. On the second hole (I parred the first) he says, "man, you'd really be somethin' if you learned to tone it down". I smiled (thinking in my head "speak up dick head...tell me all about how I can make doubles like you just did") and said what do you mean? He proceeds to tell me how all the great swings look alike (I'm thinking yeah, like Fyurk and Tiger and Hogan. I never could tell the difference between those three... :), and that I need to model my swing after the greats if I want to get good. My favourite quote, as best as I can try and remember it, was "..it doesen't matter how good your short game is, if you don't swing like a pro, you'll never be any good"

I chipped in on 18 for an eagle and an even par 72. That idiot shot 100 something. I'd go one further and say that people say the dumbest things......

You're absolutely right. That dude was definitely proof of that. And I think that is my problem to a tee. I have been listening to people like him and Golf Channel and golf magazines and looking at the pro's. My grip is kind of unorthodox bit it works for me. But I see how the magazines and teachers are always teaching to have a strong left grip and how most long ball hitters have a strong left grip and so I keep thinking I can figure it out. But it hasn't worked so far.

My problem is that I can not release the club no matter how I practice from a strong grip. Tee in the glove, left hand swings, etc. None seem to work. So I set up with a neutral grip and turn the grip slightly to the left to close the fact of the club a bit. It doesn't look as weird as it sounds when im set up to the ball. Looks pretty normal. Im just not sure If I am removing my ability to work the ball with this grip and that's why I keep trying to go to a more traditional grip and not turn my wrist. Its confusing sometimes because I have made so many changes.

Robert Premeaux Jr.

Professional Champion

# 9 7/24/2010 10:51:34 PM

that's a standard duffer's take: hit the driver every chance you get no matter what.

if i could count on 250 down the middle with my 3-wood every time, i'd hit it a lot more often off the tee ... and i'd take that dude's money while i were doing it.

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