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Its like something out of Happy Gilmore.

My thoughts on this hole R thumbs up? Finally seeing some emotion coming out of young guys and veterans playing on the tour. You had Billy Mayfair throwing on a Hightower cardinals jersey, Not sure of the other fellows name, but he landed his shot 14" from the hole and pulled out a Cardinals flag and waved it. Calcavechia giving a high knee with a fist pump on a birdie putt. Oh yeah, Paul Azinger wave the USA flag as he walked from the tee box to his ball. So yeah, finally seeing some emotion and surprises out of some players. It is pretty cool. As far as "redneck", seems odd coming from a gent. that resides in West Virginia wher the term "redneck" was originally created. All the coal miners out of West Virginia that bannded together and crossed over the Appalachians to battle the corrupt Yankees, that were running other coal mines in Eastern Kentucky. This was there way of showing uniform going into battle. They tied a red bandana around there necks to go into what most historians claim as the bloodiest, and single most deadliest battles in our great nations history. Over 8000 men lost there lives, and they were called the "rednecks". Since you have posted pictures of your Hot-Rod and say it is your second hobbie, you almost sound like a NASCAR fan kind of jealous. Jealous that your not out here in the weather with your shirt off and getting some warm sun. So, I find this forum very odd coming from a person like yourself. Anyway, the 16th hole being labeled as 1 of the 7 golf wonders of the world, and a Kodak challenge hole for $1,000,000.00. It will continue to bring in 500,000 fans @ FBR a year, and with the auction of Tigers 1997 hole-n-1 ball on #16 on e-bay (with all $ going to the Phoenix chapter of The First Tee "golfer dad's day-care). I don't have no complaints on #16, just complaints on narrow minded people that don't see a good thing when its good.

It is like Happy Gilmore and I think it's cool. Face it, the past is gone. Golf has become as mainstream as Aerosmith.
It's a sign of the times. I know this might not go over with
golf purists, but the sport needed an enema. It was just cruising along until Tiger Woods. He injected the game with new life that got people like me into the game. I wouldn't have been caught dead on a golf course before Tiger, and a chance round I played at the urging of a friend while on vacation in Myrtle Beach,SC. Now,12 years later it has grown into a monster
with younger fans, new technology and a slew of very young and talented players that seem to be dropping out of the sky.
It's not your fathers golf game, it's a 79 billion dollar a year industry. It has it's own channel! Tour passes go for a real nice price,too. Everyone is gaga for golf and I think it's great.
16 is a fun hole for fans and players alike. I don't think it should be done for every event. The course at TPC Scottsdale is open and lends itself to a set-up like that. Lighten up ,it's one hole.

Love the European Tour. Mcilroy is really something.

well well is somebody a little peeved about my topic.hmmm first of all you need to blow the freakin dust out of your head from the d--n desert if you are gonna make a quote about the history of rednecks. the knowledge of yours to wv is quite faint my friend that would have been the battle of blair mountain you was referring to where coal miners did indeed tie a bandanna around there necks to approach the others about unionization. as for the remark you made about the streetrod of mine that is a second hobby of mine indeed but in no way shape or form relates to the nascar image of a drunken idiot! anyways ear mite or whatever your name says im not gonna get in a pissin contest with you on this golf site i dont seem to have mentioned your name anywhere in my original post but if you feel the way you do about myself being from wv. lets just say you probably wound'nt want this hillbilly to come to arizona or wherever you live to put my narrow minded foot in your a__ ?

Yee-Ha I am going 2 have a rodeo. Let me save U the trip my friend and just meet you in my hometown of Elizabethtown,KY. That way you don't have to limp that far home. So quit stereo typing US (referring to U and Me) redneck genders in tasteless form. No need to drive your hot-rod out here. I find it very odd, a person coming from an area where we are "stereo typed" repeatedly. That is narrow minded. So don't have no tizzies when faults of your own nature are called out. Thanks to you, in big blue letters, for 1000's of people world-wide to see, is a name that was given in honor. Not to be used in tasteless form. If you know and care so much about Blair Mountain, then respect its history. My kin and probably yours fought for the "rednecks". By the way, I gave a few thumbs up on the car. Since we are both from the same neck of the woods, wouldn't want a Hatfield and McCoy thing to brew. I still would meet you in KY, and woop your butt in 18 holes with or without your foot in my rear. I hope by the grace of god you were raised in West Virginia and not some outsider that just moved there. Then we would have a serious problem.

okay guys sorry for the complaint just wanted to know how others felt its just a post for cryin out loud.

If it got more people to watch it's good for the game.

Well I had a great time @ the FBR and loved watching Perry school some young guns. My first FBR that I have been to. My partner has been attending since 1997 and has been to all of them since. I did get into the 16th to view and witness what it was all about. Honestly, thumbs down. I talked to roughly 30 spectators before and after I went into the stadium and over 1/2, 18 people said thumbs down. Reasons are, the tradition that started the so called "chaos" now has been stripped from the average Joe. Seats for general admission are along the left side(north) of tee boxes and runs 15 rows deep and length of about 100 yards. Everything else is corporate sky-boxes, and suites. The open seats that were added this year are not General admission seats, they are to up the number of people to get into other smaller corporate seating. Those new seats over looking the green on the right have a huge circus type canopy that offers fine food, drinks, birds-eye view of 17 tee-box, and most importantly, SHADE. According to spectators that have been going to the FBR for many years, right side the whole length was the prime area to stand and watch the shots. Why, the January sun out here is behind you when viewing from that side you have no worries of shading your eyes to watch the shot. However, general admission seats are on the left side only, this puts the all day sun right into your face. 20,000 people seating capacity, Average Joe maybe 1500. 18,500 seats are for corporates that sit and indulge themselves with lots of shade and easy access to food and beverages. In the ole days I used to watch this on tv and see a wave roll around the hole like a true football stadium. Not anymore. Because of the skybox roofs, and corporates that are to busy sealing deals, the wave had a real hard time. In between players, fans get kind of stir crazy and start a wave. Once it rolls beyond the general admission area corporates feel they are to good to participate. One lady said this."FBR has kneeled down and kissed the fat butts of corporate, stripped us (fans) of our own tradition, and favorite areas to stand and root. They have catered to all who drop big $$ and created a coliseum strictly for the rich to sit out of the sun, and get wined and dined." Wow, never thought of it like this. So to all who have said put a muzzle on the FBR, you just might of got your wish. Looks to me that corprates, and money donating clubs to the FBR came up with a very clever idea, and jumped on it.

I loved the coverage and I'm glad I had Perry in the fantasy.

It's good to see a veteran tour player win.