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T LAVAN SHOEMAKER
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First of all, has anyone heard who manufactured the dismal raingear being used in the Ryder Cup? I wouldn't buy any gear from them, but they most certainly are not the first company to make a substandard product, so I really don't blame them so much for this debacle. That blame goes to the person who's job it is to make sure all the equipment, airlines, limos, etc. all perform to the standards befitting the event and budget under his/her management.

So my question is, what can ya'll tell me to help me become an educated buyer? I know that I'm interested in good gear, you know, it actually works and breaths, and I know most of it isn't cheap. What I don't know is, what brands and/or models are right for golf. They have to give full free range of motion. A good design, from the hat to the pants, should let you ignore the rain without much concern at all. It shouldn't make an undue amount of noise when you swing, walk, etc.

My thought is that a good set of rain gear, along with the FJ Rain Joy gloves that I have, should allow me play in anything that they wouldn't close the course for. I've accepted being called an idiot for playing in contions that most sane people reserve for reading by the fire. Perhaps it's time to just not suffer so much for my golf addiction.
PeteG512
Legend
 
# 1    10/1/2010 2:57:17 PM   
Sun Mountain was the manufacturer


cogolfer1
LowIndex
 
# 2    10/1/2010 6:31:38 PM   
I don't see the need in rain gear. I get a ski cap, winter gloves or rain gloves, a coat, a ski cap, and maybe something else depending on how bad it is. This was a big blow by Sun Mountain though.


T LAVAN SHOEMAKER
Professional Champion
 
# 3    10/1/2010 7:24:33 PM   

I don't see the need in rain gear. I get a ski cap, winter gloves or rain gloves, a coat, a ski cap, and maybe something else depending on how bad it is. This was a big blow by Sun Mountain though.


I understand your point(s), however, there are a few significant differences between us. #1 location - I lived in Colo Spgs so I know the weather first hand. I get's warmer later and colder sooner in the year. Heavier clothing would fit this climate more often than here in the South. #2 Humidity factors in the weather here almost all the time vs. virtually never at a mile high. #3 I comfortably tolerated cold, heat, soaking rains, etc up until about 10 years ago. How old were you in 2000 again? I now greatly benefit from anything that increases my comfort.


cogolfer1
LowIndex
 
# 4    10/1/2010 7:35:33 PM   


I don't see the need in rain gear. I get a ski cap, winter gloves or rain gloves, a coat, a ski cap, and maybe something else depending on how bad it is. This was a big blow by Sun Mountain though.


I understand your point(s), however, there are a few significant differences between us. #1 location - I lived in Colo Spgs so I know the weather first hand. I get's warmer later and colder sooner in the year. Heavier clothing would fit this climate more often than here in the South. #2 Humidity factors in the weather here almost all the time vs. virtually never at a mile high. #3 I comfortably tolerated cold, heat, soaking rains, etc up until about 10 years ago. How old were you in 2000 again? I now greatly benefit from anything that increases my comfort.


I was 5


Goynes42
Professional Champion
 
# 5    10/1/2010 9:50:36 PM   



I don't see the need in rain gear. I get a ski cap, winter gloves or rain gloves, a coat, a ski cap, and maybe something else depending on how bad it is. This was a big blow by Sun Mountain though.


I understand your point(s), however, there are a few significant differences between us. #1 location - I lived in Colo Spgs so I know the weather first hand. I get's warmer later and colder sooner in the year. Heavier clothing would fit this climate more often than here in the South. #2 Humidity factors in the weather here almost all the time vs. virtually never at a mile high. #3 I comfortably tolerated cold, heat, soaking rains, etc up until about 10 years ago. How old were you in 2000 again? I now greatly benefit from anything that increases my comfort.


I was 5


Geez! That even makes me feel old, and I'm still just creeping up on the big 3-0.

Shoe, I agree with you. It gets downright NASTY here in TX during the winter. Cold + high humidity = pain. Anyway, I heard that Nike makes some good rain/wind gear. Probably going to get some this year before it gets cold. And I don't know if you've tried them yet, but the Under Armour body-hugging thermals are a freakin' miracle in winter.


cogolfer1
LowIndex
 
# 6    10/1/2010 10:12:39 PM   




I don't see the need in rain gear. I get a ski cap, winter gloves or rain gloves, a coat, a ski cap, and maybe something else depending on how bad it is. This was a big blow by Sun Mountain though.


I understand your point(s), however, there are a few significant differences between us. #1 location - I lived in Colo Spgs so I know the weather first hand. I get's warmer later and colder sooner in the year. Heavier clothing would fit this climate more often than here in the South. #2 Humidity factors in the weather here almost all the time vs. virtually never at a mile high. #3 I comfortably tolerated cold, heat, soaking rains, etc up until about 10 years ago. How old were you in 2000 again? I now greatly benefit from anything that increases my comfort.


I was 5


Geez! That even makes me feel old, and I'm still just creeping up on the big 3-0.

Shoe, I agree with you. It gets downright NASTY here in TX during the winter. Cold + high humidity = pain. Anyway, I heard that Nike makes some good rain/wind gear. Probably going to get some this year before it gets cold. And I don't know if you've tried them yet, but the Under Armour body-hugging thermals are a freakin' miracle in winter.


Under Armour I think is by far the best. That's what I use all Winter and they are freakin' miracles like you said Goynes. I've also heard Nike has some good stuff out. They're my favorite golf brand and I try and get as much of their stuff as possible. Should think about a water-proof jacket from them specifically designed for golf and see if it does anything.


Robert Premeaux Jr.
Professional Champion
 
# 7    10/2/2010 1:40:32 AM   
That sucks for Sun Mountain. They make among the best golf bags on the market and have for years and years. I've not bought any of their apparel, but I might now just to help them out ... (I don't buy rain gear from anybody, so I'm safe :)


PullMyFinger
Professional Champion
 
# 8    10/2/2010 1:50:40 AM   
I think some of the issue for the Sun Mountain rainwear used by the Ryder Cup team is all the stripes and logos that were sewn on to the things. If they took their basic raingear, and then sewed on all this other crap in the name of fashion, that is thousands of extra needle holes to sew that all on. Plus that stuff would add to the weight and make the outfits feel heavier.


Dandy
Professional Champion
 
# 9    10/2/2010 1:18:24 PM   
It's expensive, but Footjoy makes some great rain/cold gear. It works in Northern Canada when it drops down by the freezing point. They really take a layered approach (3 or more) but it keeps you dry, warm and still lets you swing the club.


T LAVAN SHOEMAKER
Professional Champion
 
# 10    10/2/2010 4:17:09 PM   
A few recent coments are very supportive of my research.

Ethan I was sitting in the chair getting some new multi focal contacts and updating my Nike Golf contrast prescription, and I realized that EVERY FREAKIN' piece of clothing I had on was UA. Shirt, Shorts, underwear, socks, and my damn shoes too! I love the fact that you just don't feel this stuff when you're golfing. I have a couple of compression long sleeves that I use when it get's colder and you're right. It's freaky. It's like a second skin that's warmer. There just isn't any restriction.

I've looked at FJ clothing, and while it looks OK, and I'm sure it really works, I'm leaning toward Zero Restriction Tour Lite. I can convert from long sleeve to short sleeve to vest. The cuffs are supposed to have this dual motion construction that makes them feel invisible during your swing. The jacket alone retails for $500 and I've already found a new one for $219 but dang, that's some jack when you consider you still want the pants. The reviews were all 5 star except for one and it didn't sound like this guy had much of clue about much at all. Still, the task at hand here is the justification (perhaps to another family member????) for this expense for a golf rain jacket.

I played a lot of golf in Germany and perhaps that's why I still shoot some of my best rounds in overcast, chilly, damp conditions. Hell, I'll say it. I love those days. Nostalgia on top of playing a round of golf??? Like some fine bourbon my friends.

I can see it coming, a chilly late fall morning, a steady drizzle of rain, a course that is crying for some wet days, a little sip of 12 Yr George Dickel every few holes!!! This is a story waiting to be written. And with the right gear, you just play the course in it's wet condition, not fight the suffering of a wet, shivering, misguided obsession, to "play the game." No, there's a spiritual basting that comes with comfortably playing in the rain. The course is often empty or close to it, and it's just you playing with the legends. You can see them can't you? A little rain drop in your eye and a little Dickel in your facination?


1hacker
Professional Champion
 
# 11    10/3/2010 11:29:49 AM   
Never really thought about this until this year. It's been much more humid than normal and the panhandle of TX is getting cooler already. Was misty this morning and still cool. I haven't the rain gear needed for what looks like is coming so I am definitely keeping up here. In fact, will have to order online as no one here carries anything but the light stuff here. Basiclly, wind gear not rain gear.


Mongo68
Legend
 
# 12    11/10/2010 6:35:54 PM   

If anyone is looking for a really good deal on rain gear, Name Brand Golf Shirts Direct is have a really good sale on Zero Restriction Gore Tex rain gear. Got email from them yesterday. I really like the FootJoy stuff for its comfort and fit but it does not remain waterPROOF for more than a couple of years at best. I have an old GoreTex rain jacket that is over 15 years old and it is still waterproof.
Not going to take the time to research how to post a link here cause I keep getting link cannot be displayed. But, if you take the letters NBGSD add the www to the front end and the com to the backend, you get the idea.


I'll second Rick's approval of Zero Restriction. Great product, better than Footjoy in my opinion and I HAVE tried both.


gj24
Legend
 
# 13    11/11/2010 6:26:32 AM   
I don't own any because more times than not, I won't play in the rain. But thanks for the tip Dandy on Footjoys gear. sounds like good stuff~


T LAVAN SHOEMAKER
Professional Champion
 
# 14    11/16/2010 7:31:06 AM   




I don't see the need in rain gear. I get a ski cap, winter gloves or rain gloves, a coat, a ski cap, and maybe something else depending on how bad it is. This was a big blow by Sun Mountain though.


I understand your point(s), however, there are a few significant differences between us. #1 location - I lived in Colo Spgs so I know the weather first hand. I get's warmer later and colder sooner in the year. Heavier clothing would fit this climate more often than here in the South. #2 Humidity factors in the weather here almost all the time vs. virtually never at a mile high. #3 I comfortably tolerated cold, heat, soaking rains, etc up until about 10 years ago. How old were you in 2000 again? I now greatly benefit from anything that increases my comfort.


I was 5


Geez! That even makes me feel old, and I'm still just creeping up on the big 3-0.

Shoe, I agree with you. It gets downright NASTY here in TX during the winter. Cold + high humidity = pain. Anyway, I heard that Nike makes some good rain/wind gear. Probably going to get some this year before it gets cold. And I don't know if you've tried them yet, but the Under Armour body-hugging thermals are a freakin' miracle in winter.


I have used Under Armour long sleeve compression shirts under a regular polo shirt, and you're right, it's just weird, even though the material is body hugging, you can feel it when you move. It's like another layer of skin. I've been looking at Zero Restriction stuff but looks like they may be at the top of food chain so to speak. The tour jacket I was looking at was over $500 and the pants weren't too far behind. The jacket, however, was convertable from full sleeve, to half sleeve, to vest. I kind of like that feature, I just want to find some place to try one on to see exactly how those zippers feel and what size in their line actually fits me.